March 12, 2025
Your Inner Guru: Finding Truth Beyond Fallible Teachers
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The spiritual path requires discernment when allegations arise against gurus, as blind faith contradicts the principles of Advaita Vedanta which emphasizes self-inquiry and ethical conduct from spiritual teachers.
• Distinguishing between teachings and teachers when misconduct allegations surface
• Using vivek (discernment) rather than blind devotion when evaluating guru behavior
• Understanding that dharma and accountability apply to everyone, including spiritual leaders
• Recognizing that the Guru Tattva (principle) transcends any individual teacher
• Protecting the vulnerable takes precedence over preserving a guru's reputation
• Examining what scriptures say about teacher requirements (Shrotriya and Brahmanishta)
• Acknowledging that a guru's actions and embodiment matter as much as their words
• Trusting your inner guidance when something feels wrong with a teacher's conduct
• Following the highest authority—your own Self—rather than potentially flawed individuals
If a spiritual teacher has helped you but faces allegations of misconduct, you can appreciate their teachings while still holding them accountable. Remember that your true guru is within, and no enlightened path requires blind obedience or excusing harmful behavior.
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Bearded Mystic podcast, and I'm your host, rahul N Singh.
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Today we will be talking about something interesting.
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Let's just say that.
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And the reason I want to discuss this because it is becoming pretty obvious that this seems to be a big problem, especially with gurus that become popular and these matters should be taken seriously.
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But I want to see things from an Advaita Vedanta lens lens.
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So, as you know, recently, base girl field, who has done reports on investigation, reports on amma muji, I think, andrew cohen, a few of these non-dual teachers or gurus in general.
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She's done investigative reports on them and she just recently did one on Sadhguru Jagivasudev.
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Now, obviously, sadhguru is a very popular guru, probably the most popular one on YouTube today in terms of Indian spirituality.
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You know his number of views and number of subscribers is immense.
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He definitely has inspired a lot of people on the spiritual path.
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But when someone is, when somebody has and again this is for people who are over 18, or you know, if you and if you have any previous history of sexual harassment, um, please, you know there's caution now that if you don't listen, you know you can, you don't have to.
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So I want to discuss those allegations, but more so not necessarily if they're true or not.
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But what do we do when there has been allegations?
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How should someone who's on the path of Advaita Vedanta or non-duality, how are they meant to deal with this?
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What do the scriptures say?
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What does our teacher say?
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What does Adi Shankaraji say?
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So we're going to look into that.
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So first of all, you know, one important thing is Advaita Vedanta fully believes that one should first of all practice self-inquiry.
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So, atma Vichara, that is your highest teaching you should have discernment, vivek, about what is right and what is wrong.
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One should uphold dharma.
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Then there's detachment.
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So one shouldn't be too attached to the guru that if allegations come out, you just outright disbelieve it.
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There has to be some discernment and some detachment in order to allow these investigations to follow through, and all these are essential for spiritual growth.
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Now, when a guru is accused of any type of misconduct and whether they're true or not, yeah, and that's including sexual harassment Advaita Vedanta actually tells us that we need to encourage careful analysis rather than blind faith that, oh, my guru can do no wrong.
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You know, that type of mentality means it's blind faith.
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You don't really know what you believe in, it's just a matter of why you believe in this, and that's it.
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There's no discussion if there is allegations of such and mind you, sadhguru not just only has allegations in general with consenting or adult women, it's also in minors, and so this is where it gets concerning for me.
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It's also in minors, and so this is where it gets concerning for me.
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Now, I fundamentally believe that I cannot promote anybody that is, you know, accused of such misconduct.
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You know especially, you know there's no way does it say, these things are consensual.
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So wherever there's misconduct of sexual nature, I believe that that's where I draw the line personally.
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That's just me and my personal preference.
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A lot of people don't really care, but that's not my concern, and I believe that we should hold people to the highest, you know, kind of accountability, especially if they're a teacher.
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So again, this is less to do with sadhgur, more to do with what do we do when we know of a teacher who has been accused of such things?
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And, you know, can we still learn from them?
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You know those gray areas where they could be a good teacher, but obviously their behavior says something else.
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So Advaita Vedanta actually has ways of dealing with that, so one you do have to distinguish between the teaching teachings from the teacher.
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You know that's utilizing your vivek.
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Now we know that, brahman, this absolute truth, this absolute reality, is impersonal and beyond individuals.
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You know it does not belong.
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This truth does not belong to one person.
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Yeah, not one person holds the key to the whole universe and and they should be seen as the highest on the pedestal.
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I'm sorry, if you think your guru is the best, everyone else thinks their guru is the best.
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So what you're saying is nothing special.
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It may be special in your own eyes, but it doesn't mean anything.
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Yeah, in fact, I think it's more from ego that we say such things, because if we say that my guru is better than yours, then literally that's just a game of ego.
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Um, the teachings and the truth remain valid, regardless of if the individual fails to embody it.
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And again, like if certain teachers are, they have allegations of misconduct.
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Then we have to separate the teachings from the teacher.
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We have to say look, it may be that they have great meditation practices, great yogic practices, great knowledge, they explain the scriptures so well.
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That may be so, but the fact is there is misconduct and therefore, um, they have failed to embody what they claim to teach and, uh, what?
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What is expected from them as, as you know, gurus?
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Uh, so to speak.
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So this does not excuse the teacher's misconduct.
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One can appreciate the teachings but at the same time, that doesn't mean that we need to hold the teacher in high regard.
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Yeah, the teaching should be given more importance and yes, in Advaita Vedanta, a guru's integrity matters.
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It is important.
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In the Upanishads and Adi Shankaraji, they both emphasize that a guru should be well-versed in the scriptures.
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So that's the number one thing.
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If they're not, I would say knowing Sanskrit is a minor thing, but they should know the essence of the scriptures.
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They should know how to explain the scriptures.
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They should be a good representation of the scriptures.
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So this is why what this does is Explain the scriptures.
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They should be A good representation Of the scriptures.
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So this is why what this does is it gives you A foundation To assess whether A guru should be followed.
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Yeah, if they can't explain the scriptures very well, then should you follow them.
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What are they going to give you?
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Yeah, all the wisdom that needs to be discussed Is in the scriptures.
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Anyway, the thing is, a teacher, through their embodiment, shows you the practical way of living it.
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So if they're not well versed in the scripture, not just in terms of explaining but embodying also, then it makes this value in the teacher and this should be established in Brahman.
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This should be established in the highest nature, and so if a guru exhibits or shows any type of adharmic, unrighteous, irreligious behavior, then they simply aren't fit to guide seekers.
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It's as clear as that.
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You have to embody what you say.
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Yeah, now it may be that the person has kind of rectified their behavior and and that should also be considered that, you know, have they committed misconduct in the past?
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Okay, for that, you know the due, the due process needs to be followed, like if a criminal investigation needs to occur.
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But at the same time we have to see has it been?
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Is there remorse in what they've done?
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Are they regretful and do they accept that they've done wrong and they're looking to improve themselves?
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But if they're trying to escape it, then you know there's something not right there too, you know.
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Um, so again, a person's realization should reflect in their conduct.
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So, if you think about it, misconduct of any kind, especially of a sexual nature, would be, you know kind of what is a massive contradiction to the scriptures.
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So embodiment is very important, uh, in this, in this sense.
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Uh, now, when it comes to accountability and dharma, as you know the, the shatria spirit, so to speak.
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Uh, you know hindu tradition, obviously Vedantic tradition, includes accountability.
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So you know whether you're a king, whether you're a rishi, whenever and you can see this in the Mahabharata and Ramayana if you did anything wrong, you were challenged.
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You were challenged.
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You have to deal with those challenges.
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If you're accused of something, you have to deal with it.
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You have to deal with that karma.
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And so trying to escape accountability is another way of saying that you think that you are beyond these things.
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You know, and that's not the true embodiment of realization.
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So it's very important to understand that accountability is necessary here.
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And you know righteous action, dharma, it requires protecting the vulnerable.
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So, um it's.
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You know, being there for the vulnerable is more important than one's own individual status, even if you may call yourself the highest guru, but if your conduct is not to help the vulnerable, then what are you for?
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If you think about it, the whole reason why Sri Krishna was even okay with the war with the Mahabharata was because he knew that, for the people, this was necessary.
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They needed a righteous king and Arjuna was the righteous king and so or the Pandavas were the rightful kind of owners of the kingdom.
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So this is what you have to understand that protecting the vulnerable, protecting poor, protecting the people who need society's help the most, is what a guru's kind of conduct should be about living a wonderful lifestyle.
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I'm sorry, but you know, as far as I know, yes, I'm not saying that gurus should not have luxury.
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I'm not saying that.
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But what I'm saying is that that luxury shouldn't come at a cost.
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You know, there should be more done for the poor, there should be more given back to society.
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In my opinion, and again, if these allegations are credible, you know of any person, you know it's his adharma to act rather than enable abuse under the guise of divine grace.
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You know, or it's a tantric process or it's an occult practice.
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No, that's just nonsense.
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If one is doing such things, then you know, in my opinion, it's against dharma to do so.
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And again, there's no grace in this, there's no divinity in this, you know.
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You can pretend there is, you can pretend it's spiritual, but all it is is superstitious rituals that you're doing.
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It doesn't matter what you've consecrated either, like how does that matter, if your actions are not aligned to the tradition.
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Again, in yoga, the niyamas and yamas are important.
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You can't escape them.
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Same thing in vidanta the yamas and niyamas are important if you follow the bhagavad gita.
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Shri krishan says you have to follow.
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Yeah, from a spiritual level is very important.
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So, again, I don't care whether you build so many temples or you are to be held, uh, you know, accountable for any wrongdoing.
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You know anything and every allegation should be taken seriously, regardless whether it's financial misconduct, worker misconduct, volunteer misconduct or sexual misconduct, anything like that should be carefully investigated, uh, with unbiased people.
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Um, and that, and that's very important, it all needs to be objective, okay.
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And then, you know, if we're in jnana, which is obviously Advaita, vedanta is more jnana-focused, then there should be, you know, should one have blind devotion or should one have true inquiry?
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And you know, in my opinion, true Vedanta discourages, you know, blind guru worship and that's bhakti without vivek.
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If you're just worshipping a guru despite knowing how much wrong they've done, then I'm sorry, that's not bhakti, that's fanaticism.
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You know, that is not true devotion, that's not true worship If one thinks the guru can do no wrong.
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First of all, making such a statement is stupid.
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One should just say that the Guru has to follow a certain set of code of conduct.
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It's what's expected.
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I think that's really important.
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And and you know shankaracharya, he, he warned against charlatans, he warned against false teachers who will exploit seekers for their money, for their status, you know, for whatever reason.
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Uh, you know any guru that tries to exploit you by saying you know, my thing is my biggest test that I say to anyone, if you follow any guru is how many people have they made enlightened?
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And if you can't say that, you know, if you consider the following if they haven't made 10 percent enlightened I know it sounds like a weird, like percentage, but at least 10 percent, I think that's a fair number um, if they haven't made 10 percent of the people enlightened, of their followers, the true disciples, then I'm sorry.
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Uh, you know there's Either either the methods aren't working or that teacher doesn't know what they're doing and they're just taking you for a ride, and they're, and they're riding the wave, they're surfing the waves themselves.
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You know they're not really.
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Um, you know they know that they can make a fool out of you.
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So why, you know?
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So think about it, think about this logically and as students of spirituality.
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You should ask do these people live by the principles of advaita or vidanta in general, or yoga in general?
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I don't think one should refrain from doing that questioning.
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So okay, if you find out that your guru is a fraud, if you find out that fraud is a harsh word, they didn't embody their teachings, yeah, they didn't embody the ethics required.
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So what do we do?
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Well, first of all, we must understand that the Guru Tattva, the Guru principle, is greater than any individual.
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So the Guru is that which represents your true nature.
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So that can be the scriptures, that can be other realized beings, yeah, that can be one's own self-inquiry, one's own Atma-Vichaya, once you realize that you're formless awareness, that is a Guru Tattva.
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So Guru Tattva is most important.
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The Guru as the individual name and form is not so important.
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Yeah, what the Guru represents is more important, and that representation is the highest teaching of the scriptures, the highest embodiment of the scriptures and teachings, and also they are fully immersed in that non-dual awareness that is most important.
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So what would I say then to somebody that has a problematic teacher?
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Is you know what?
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Distance yourself from them.
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It's okay to don't feel bad, you know, and you can still be committed to the path of spirituality, of Advaita Vedanta, of yoga.
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You know you don't have to ditch yoga or ditch non-duality or ditch Advaita Vedanta or ditch the scriptures because of someone not embodying them.
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That person failed.
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The teachings didn't fail.
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If somebody practiced it then failed, then you can question but obviously they're not practicing it.
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If they practiced it they wouldn't do such things, they wouldn't even be accused of such things.
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Someone can turn around and say it's conspiracy, but there's no smoke without fire.
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And you know whether that's even the Guru's inability to stop the misconduct.
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You know they're still to be blamed for that.
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They could have stopped the misconduct, but they didn't, and that should be a for that.
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They could have stopped the misconduct but they didn't.
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And and and that should be a choice that they have to reckon with and the mistake that they've made and they have to accept it.
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Yeah, that okay, I didn't do anything.
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But going forward, it's not going to happen again, like if one just owns up to it.
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It'd be a lot better and it's just.
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But if one keeps denying, denying, and if it's true, it's worse, because then you kind of you're kind of trying to lead the blind over.
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The blind is what you're trying to do.
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You're trying to put wool over people's eyes, sorry, uh.
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So the conclusion here is for me you know and we'll look at some scriptures to kind of back us up you know, advaita Vedanta is very clear that your true self, this formless awareness, is your true guru.
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That's the real guru, that's the inner guru.
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Everyone said that, ramana Maharishi, every guru has said that.
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The guru is within.
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It's not a fallible human.
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You'll find many errors with human beings, but the Guru Tattva is most important.
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Now, if a Guru is accused of serious misconduct and this is just accused, yeah, it's wise to investigate.
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I would say it's very important that we do that.
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Hold them accountable.
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So, even if they deny it, have they shown you proof that they, they have things in place to stop this from happening?
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You know, do they have things in place to say you know, none of this has happened?
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You know we have evidence that none of this has happened?
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Yeah, and if needed, move on rather than defending them blindly.
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Because you know, by defending them blindly, all you're doing is actually accepting that those misconducts are OK, even for you to do.
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Yet you're okay with it.
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And that's when it's cultish behavior and that's when you know probably you should take a step back.
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So for me and for anyone else, I think protecting dharma is most important and protecting seekers is always more important than preserving an institution or a personality.
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I'm sorry, but even like for my own podcast, what I teach on the podcast is going to be the most important thing.
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Me as a personality is not important.
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Me being enlightened is not important.
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What's more important is am I benefiting you and am I helping you reach where you want to be?
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And if you want to be enlightened, am I helping you on the journey or am I not helping you on the journey?
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Is my conduct against what I say on the podcast or is it aligned with the podcast?
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You know I'm a householder, so I live a family life.
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Um, I go through very, uh, I go through challenges.
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Uh, I.
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I also have arguments with my wife.
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I, you know, I can get annoyed with my little son.
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All these things happen.
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These vasanas come up and I have to deal with those vas son.
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All these things happen.
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These vasanas come up and I have to deal with those vasanas.
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That's the whole point.
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No enlightened person can escape such things.
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So, whether you're a seeker or you're enlightened.
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We all have to go through the same thing.
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Yeah, as they say, before enlightenment chopping wood, fetching water.
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After enlightenment chopping wood, fetching water.
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After enlightenment, chopping wood fetching water.
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Nothing changes.
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So when it comes to scriptures, the Mundaka Upanishad says the Guru should be learned and ethical.
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So to know that imperishable one must go to a teacher who is shotriya, well-versed in scriptures and brahmanishta, established in Brahman.
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So if a teacher lacks ethical conduct, I'm sorry, but even their realization should be questionable.
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And a guru must live the truth, not just speak it.
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Then one should say well, that guru is a good orator, but not necessarily a good teacher.
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Yeah, they're a good orator, they're a good speaker, but a teacher maybe not, you know.
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So we can be happy with a good speaker, a good orator, there's nothing wrong with that.
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But a teacher is of a higher standard, okay.
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And yes, a guru's actions matter, because even in the Gita Sri Krishna says whatever a great person does, others follow.
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Whatever standards they set, the world follows.
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So a guru is expected to embody their teachings.
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And so if they are engaging in misconduct like sexual harassment, they're setting a dangerous precedent, and that's why I think that's, that's why I draw the line on that and I refuse to say that such a person, from this day forward, that they're a good teacher because of those misconduct allegations.
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Until they are proven to be in court, those allegations aren't true.
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Until then it's true.
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And people may not like that, they may be like that's so woke, but you know what?
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I'd rather be woke than be blind and be ignorant.
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For me that's more important.
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More important may not be your values, that's, that's up to you.
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Um, and then Adi Shankaraji also says in Viveka Jodhmanee that a false teacher is like a blind man leading the blind.
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He neither knows a path nor can he help others.
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A true guru must have direct realization and impeccable conduct.
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One needs to be in that awareness all the time.
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So if a guru exploits students and yes, that's happened they should not be followed Again.
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You can still learn from what they say, but they don't have to be your guru.
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I want us to understand the fine line here.
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It's a very nuanced point, but it's important to understand that.
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Because, remember, blind faith is not Advaita, because, remember, blind faith is not Advaita.
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Advaita does not at all, in any shape or form, accept blind faith.
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You may have it in other bhakti traditions, but certainly in Advaita Vedanta.
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It's not acceptable.
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And even in the Mahabharata it is said that if a teacher strays from dharma he is to be abandoned like an impure vessel.
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So dharma is above individuals.
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So you follow dharma.
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