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Hello and welcome to another episode of The Bearded Mystic Podcast and I'm your host, Rahul N Singh.
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So today we will be continuing on with the series called Wisdom of the Mystics and as you know at the end of the month we look at one mystic and we've gone through so many this year.
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A lot that we have learned through these mystics and most of all it shows the oneness of the message and if we truly understand things from a non dual perspective we can possibly gauge in what they're truly talking about.
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Obviously, We are looking at more non dual teachers, but maybe in the future there may be teachers which are not completely non dual, but their message is the same, because in the end realization is one.
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It doesn't matter which path you take.
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The main thing is, destination is always the same one.
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Even though people may call it different names, but ultimately it's the same.
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So as you know, last month we looked at the teachings of Vemana ji.
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And Vemana Ji we know is a popular saint, especially in the southern area of India.
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Today we will be looking at the teachings of Namdev Ji.
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Some people may be affiliated with Namdev Ji because he's also in the Guru Granth Sahib Ji as one of the poets.
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And the poems that we're looking at today are inspired from the Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
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Let's get started with the first poem and these are very deep and I'll read the whole thing and then we'll go line by line.
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So the first one is...
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In the one and in the many, he is pervading and permeating, wherever I look, there he is.
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The marvellous image of Maya is so fascinating, how few understand this.
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God is everything, God is everything, without God there is nothing at all.
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As one thread holds hundreds and thousands of beads, he is woven into his creation.
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The waves of the water...
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The foam and bubbles are not distinct from the water.
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This manifested world is the playful game of the Supreme Lord God.
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Reflecting upon it, we find that it is not different from Him.
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False doubts and dream objects, man believes them to be true.
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The Guru has instructed me to try to do good deeds and my awakened mind has accepted this.
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Says Namdev, see the creation of the Lord and reflect upon it in your heart, in each and every heart and deep within the very nucleus of all is the one Lord.
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It's very beautiful and there's a lot to grasp in this, it's not simply easy to understand without some level of foundation in spirituality.
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First thing he says, in the one and in the many, he is pervading and permeating.
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Wherever I look, there he is.
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This is simple.
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Wherever you look, wherever the senses may project to you, There's only that one lord.
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When you actually accept that it's just the one lord, when you accept that it's all that same one, you get rid of that conflict.
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Then it's, yes, he's in everything, or it is in everything.
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Why should I deny anybody?
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Why should I hate anybody?
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They're all me.
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Or, they're all God.
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And if we say they're all God, or this One, then why am I fighting?
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Why am I hating upon anyone?
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He is pervading.
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Wherever I walk, what seems to be empty space is nothing but this.
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Permeating, living within this.
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That means living within space too.
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So everywhere, he is permeating.
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Wherever I look, there he is.
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You see him in the plant, you see him on the screen, you see him in the lightbulb, you see him everywhere.
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When this happens, when we actually truly start seeing God in such a way, we truly move forward, we truly gain deep spiritual insight.
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That's why it's really important.
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That we continuously learn this, continuously make sure that this very teaching starts resonating within our very heart.
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That we start accepting it for what it truly is.
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Then he says, the marvellous image of Maya is so fascinating, how few understand this.
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What we see as Maya, this illusion that captures us and makes us believe in ignorance.
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It's nothing but this one.
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It's an image.
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Why am I fighting over an image?
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For example, whatever happens in the photo is only a capture of that one moment.
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But does it tell me about the moment that I'm in now?
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No, it's of the past.
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Likewise, this maya is always in the present.
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Therefore, Namdev Ji says, it's marvellous.
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It's a marvellous image.
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It's static.
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It's the same.
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Meaning, it's unreal.
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That's what it's the same in.
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It's changing all the time, but that's what its nature is.
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So...
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He's really getting rid of the duality, you know, a lot of people say help me get rid of this maya, help me get rid of the control of maya, maya controls me.
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No, you allow it to control you.
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Namdev Ji gives us an alternative.
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Instead of saying that it's captured you and you're scared of it, say that it's marvellous, fascinating, oh wow, this formless has created all this.
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Maya, this image of Maya, how fascinating.
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This Formless is trying to trap me, how fascinating.
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That's the way a seeker will see things.
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That's what we're trying to do here.
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It's trying to uplift ourselves in the spirit of those teachings.
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Then he says, God is everything, God is everything.
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Without God, there is nothing at all.
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So very true.
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Very, very true.
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God is everything.
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Why should I deny anything?
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If I say he's pervading and permeating in all, and then I say, well, God is in one person and not the other, God is in one thing and not the other, then I am committing a misunderstanding.
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I am not understanding completely.
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So that's why Namdev ji says God is everything, God is everything.
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Without God, there is nothing at all.
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The moment you say this reality isn't, reality stops.
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Then how can maya exist?
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This is what Namdev ji is talking about, this very deep understanding, and this is the, you could say the nectar of non duality.
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When you start seeing in that way, the oneness in everything.
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Very difficult to attain, but...
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If we are sincere and honest, we can understand it in an instant.
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Then he says, As one thread holds hundreds and thousands of beads, he's woven into his creation.
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So another imagery to use, when we see, like I'm wearing a mala right now, in that mala, in between there's a thread that's holding it all together.
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So likewise, there's a thread that's holding all of us together.
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All of maya together.
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What is that?
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This Formless Awareness, this Brahman, this is what Namdev Ji is talking about.
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He is woven into creation.
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This is the Upanishadic teachings as well, that this formless, this Brahman is woven into creation.
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Immersed into creation.
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Therefore why have negativity?
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Why have separation?
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Why be ignorant?
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Why have animosity towards creation?
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It does not make sense.
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Then he says, the waves of the water, the foam and bubbles, are not distinct from the water.
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The ocean, the foam, the bubbles, the waves, they are all water, nothing but water itself.
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Again, another image for us to use, another way to understand.
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If I start saying the bubble is separate to water, That's incorrect.
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Water is the bubble and bubble is the water.
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It's made of the same essence, the same substance.
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It only has a different form.
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Even if you say ice, then you have liquid water, then you have condensation.
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It's all water at the end of the day.
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It's not anything different.
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It's not anything separate to water.
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It just has a different form.
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So everything can have a different name and form, but it's that one same reality.
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So although we have different names and forms, me and you may be different, me and this screen, this microphone may be different, this camera may be different, but we are One.
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We are made of that same essence of Nirguna Brahman.
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Ultimately that is the teaching.
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Then he says, this manifested world is the playful game of the Supreme Lord God.
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Reflecting upon it, we find that it's not different from him.
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Again, another deep insight.
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If this is all a leela, you know, we hear this, people say this all the time.
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Ah, it's a leela.
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They cry the most at the leela.
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Why is it happening to me?
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People are like that.
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They say something is a leela, and then something bad happens to them.
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Oh, then all hell breaks loose, yeah.
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One person is ill, and you say to them, It's the leela of the lord.
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Then when that very person gets ill, then it's not the leela of the lord, take me to the doctor.
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Yeah, even, I find it weird.
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Um...
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Especially when someone dies, you know, people say, you know, it's his marzi, he takes whenever he wants.
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And I'm like, what is he taking?
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He's only taking from himself, and he's not lost anything.
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So what is he actually taking?
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If you say this one is complete, then what is he taking?
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You see, we have to think, when we say, oh it's his marzi, it's his lila, everything, then are we really believing this?
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And this teaching of Leela should make us become an observer, that we look at things as an observer, but this doesn't happen.
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We get more trapped and we start believing we are separate.
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Yes, a mystic will always make concessions, a seeker will always make concessions, because they know that with some people you have to say its a leela, it's life, you have to accept it.
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The number one thing people don't accept is death.
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And you probably noticed, that death appears in our podcast quite a bit.
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And the reason for that is simple.
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It's the one thing we deny, but the one thing that will happen.
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Death is more guaranteed than my next breath.
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That is for certain.
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I cannot be certain for the next breath, but I can be certain that death is knocking its door.
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And even if you're healthy, I'm 35 right now, um, can I guarantee that at 40, death will not knock.
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I always say that death is always knocking.
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In fact, I use a different analogy, that the string of life, the thread of life is thin like a spider's web, and there's an extremely immaculate sharp knife, a sword, there's an immaculate shiny sharp sword.
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That's literally touching that thread.
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One slight movement, gone.
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And that's the way I see life.
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Very fragile, yet so unique.
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Fragile, yet it appears permanent.
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We cannot guarantee when we will leave, but we can guarantee that the moments that we have left is one lived in Jivan-Mukti, in Liberated Whilst Living, because we understand the breath is God, death is God, and the last breath is God.
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Who am I going to?
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God.
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If I really understand this, if I truly accept this, then will I have any worries?
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Will I have any fear of death?
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No, it cannot happen.
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If we understand that we are this One Lord, this One Formless Brahman, and we find that we are not different to Him, then can we die?
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Can the True Self die in you, in everyone, in your loved ones, in your friends, in your family?
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They are all this One, nobody dies, nobody is alive, everyone is just This.
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It's a high teaching, a simple teaching, this is very simple.
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But very difficult to accept.
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Because the reason why we don't accept it is also because we, you know, we feel that it's wrong.
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Because society tells us, you know, you've got to achieve everything in this life.
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You've got to get everything now.
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You know, you gotta try to make your life more permanent.
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But, life does not care about what we think.
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Then he says, false doubts and dream objects.
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Man believes them to be true.
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Exactly what I've just said.
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False doubts.
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Is there a God?
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Who knows?
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If there's a God, like they say in the Abrahamic religions, I'm not going to say it is or it is not.
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Or, is Brahman really true?
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Even though I can see Brahman right here, right now, and yet I will still deny.
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Then that's not good either.
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That means that I'm living in dream objects.
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I know.
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When you wake up from the dream, is the dream ever true?
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Do I still live in the dream world and I'm right here recording this podcast while you're listening to this?
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Are you still dreaming?
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No, I'm here.
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You are here.
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So how can we believe anything that's false?
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We cannot.
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The Guru has instructed me to try to do good deeds, and my awakened mind has accepted this.
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Now, this is the ultimate teaching of the Guru, because we think the Guru shows us this formless, this Brahman, and that's it.
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The job is done.
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No.
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If you're still not doing good deeds, what's the point of having an awakened mind?
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What's the point?
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What are you going to achieve?
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See, Namdev ji says, my awakened mind has accepted this.
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That means, first, my Guru showed me this Lord, showed me this Supreme One, showed me the Oneness of this, the non dual aspect of this.
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That this One is not separate to existence.
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This One is Satchitananda.
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Now my Guru says, now that you know this, you must do good deeds.
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Now he says try to do good deeds because the thing is, unfortunately, deeds will always be interpreted according to the other person.
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What you may have intentions to be good may not be, how another person sees it.
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But, at the end of the day, people can tell from your energy, if you're nice, if you're sincere, if you're honest.
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That's what the Guru expects.
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Just be honest and do good deeds.
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my guru gets told this, Oh, all they do is, all he does is tell you to be a good human being.
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And my guru was accused of this.
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And, when people, I used to ask them, You know, what does Babaji teach?
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And they would say, Oh, just to be a good human being.
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But they missed the foundation before that.
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You are a Brahm-Gyani now you must be a good human being.
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And we seem to miss the first bit.
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And, and this is not just with me, or people in the same spiritual belief as me.
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It's others too.
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They do the same.
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We miss the first teaching because we are not looking for depth.
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We simply aren't.
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We are looking for something shallow because whatever can be shallow, we can try to achieve and if somebody says to you, if you do something bad or wrong, you can say, well, I'm trying to be a good human being, but, if you, a spiritual person cannot say this, because they should be using their viveka at all times, so it's very difficult for a spiritual person to say, oh, I'm just trying to be a good human being, it doesn't work like that, so, that's why.
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The guru says, after you've had your mind awakened.
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You have to do good deeds.
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Then he says, then he ends with says, Namdev see the creation of the Lord and reflect upon it in your heart, in each and every heart, and deep within the very nucleus of all is the one Lord.
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And this is the pinnacle message.
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This is the ultimate message.
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There is nothing but this One.
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This creation we see is nothing but this one Lord.