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Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Bearded Mystic Podcast and I'm your host, Rahul N.
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Singh.
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Today we will be continuing on with my series on the wisdom of the mystics.
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Last month we looked at the teachings of Sree Narayana Guruji and we learned a lot about his teachings of Advaita Vedanta that was linked with social reform through abolishing the caste system, and it was really insightful to read his works and discuss it with you last month and today we'll be looking at the famous Sufi Mystic Bulleh Shah Ji, he was in Punjab and his poetry is well known amongst a lot of Indians today because of its sheer honesty.
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So let's get started.
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We will be looking at the first poem.
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What we are gonna do is we are gonna go through each poem, but we're gonna go through each stanza at a time because there's a lot to pack in this episode.
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Poem one.
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In one point, the whole tale is concluded.
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Stick to the point leave all calculations and accounts.
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Do away with hell and punishment of Grave.
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Close all the chapters of all the scriptures.
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Do cleanse your dreams of heart and rapture.
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The whole narrative points to the one reality.
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In one point, the whole tale is concluded.
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Here we can understand that in one point it implies that there is a sign, there's this one sign, this one point where everything is understood, where everything is shown to us.
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We can then see that deeper truth right ahead of us.
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And all we need to know is that the truth is within that one sign.
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So some people call it the ishara.
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Some people call it the method.
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Some people call it the insignia, the mark.
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It's something that just triggers that realization, that triggers want to understand the truth, that allows one to absorb the truth completely in one go.
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Now it seems like enlightenment happens at one point is what Bulleh Shah's talking about.
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But if you think about it, enlightenment actually takes several points until that one last point.
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You have several sub points before you get to the main point.
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In one point the whole tale is concluded and the whole tale meaning enlightenment.
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So if you understand that you can stick to the Brahm Gyana or the truth and you just stay with it, you, you literally absorb yourself in it, immerse yourself in it.
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Then that one sign is more than enough.
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That one pointing is more than enough.
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One word can be enough, you know, we don't need to think so much.
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We don't need to intellectualize so much when we are in that capacity to understand the truth.
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So we don't need to also calculate our karma.
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Have we done enough?
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Have we not done enough?
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Do we need to do more?
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Do we need to do less?
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All of that doesn't need to be calculated or anything like that.
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Hence he says, stick to the point, leave all calculations and accounts.
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Who cares?
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Some people say, there's karmic accounts, who cares?
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At the end of the day, what we have to look for is how can we get to enlightenment?
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How can we get to that point?
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So stick to the truth and we will get there.
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That's what he's saying.
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Then he says, really, nobody can scare you with the threat of hell.
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Who has seen it, and nor can someone tell you that you'll be punished by death.
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For example, when Bulleh Shah Ji says, do away with hell, he's literally saying, get away with these concepts.
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People trying to make you fooled into thinking you are lesser than what you are.
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You are this truth.
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Why are you allowing yourself to be entertained by such concepts?
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And then on top of that, he says, it's the punishment of grave.
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Like, yes, death is going to happen.
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It seems like a punishment, but stop thinking of it.
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Like a punishment.
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Death is not a punishment.
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Death is merely a sign that this is not the end.
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That's what it is.
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It's the end for the current body and mind and the manifestation of it.
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But is there something that is beyond it?
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And he doesn't just mention just hell and the grave, he even says, close all the chapters to the scriptures because the one sign is enough.
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We don't need to be thinking about what chapter says this, what chapter says that?
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For example, we've been going through the verses of the Bhagavad Gita.
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We've been going through so many chapters so far.
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Does it mean that we do not know the truth, if we don't memorize everything or sometimes it can even mean that if we take each chapter in itself and we think of them as separate pieces rather than one whole tapestry, what happens is we get further confused because we will find contradictions in the scripture.
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So he says close all the chapters of all the scriptures.
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At the end of the day, this one point is all you need, right?
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That one pointing, that one ishara, that one teaching that can change your life.
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Truth is never delayed, it is forever revealed.
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This is something we need to understand.
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We don't have to wait for the truth.
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It's already here right now.
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We can realize this truth and it won't take us long.
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Then he says, do cleanse your dreams of heart and rapture.
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Clean your heart of anything of meaning, like whether it is hell, whether it is a certain rapture event.
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Get rid of all these notions.
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There's no need for them.
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Yeah, everything written and said points to this one pointing, this one truth.
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And this is where our focus and attention needs to be.
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So this one reality of reman is supreme.
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That's all we have to understand.
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Hence, he says the whole narrative points to that one Reality.
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So we don't need to get stuck in the stories, what's been written in the chapters of the scriptures, what's in our hearts of desires, we don't need to look at any of these things.
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We just need to go straight to the One, that is always present, always here.
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Then in the next verse, he says, we bow our forehead all in vain, carved scar on forehead without any gain.
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People chuckle at the mere reading of Kalma.
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We hardly believe with our heart was saying Kalma.
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Kalma meaning prayer, the Islamic prayer.
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We bow our heads sometimes outta custom and the appearance of respect.
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We, we see this, people do this all the time.
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They bow their foreheads, but really it's for nothing.
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Or they ritualistically do it and it has no meaning to them.
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And inside their mind they may be thinking something else.
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They may be feeling some other feelings.
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They may be bowing in front of something with reverence, but they have some sort of, expectation.
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Nowadays, spirituality, religion has become literally a business on an individual level, not on a whole holistic level in terms of spiritual organizations or religious organizations.
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But even ourselves, we are trying to make business with some God telling this God that if He does this for us, then we will do this or we will do that.
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We are literally trying to bargain and you can't bargain with the Truth.
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Inside our head we may feel something different.
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So what's the point of bowing and you know, if we are bowing and touching the floor, the repetition of that ritualistic action will only leave a scar on our head.
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But what is the value of that?
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All we get is a physical scar, but is there an increase in our devotion?
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No.
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Why?
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Because we have some expectations.
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We're bowing ritualistically, without any meaning, without any purpose, without knowing the awareness of this truth.
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And if you think about it, it is a radical statement that he's been making so far.
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He even says, people chuckle at the mere reading of the Kalma because what are you reading to and who for and what for?
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Are you speaking to the One Reality that is already present and always has been present?
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Or are you chatting to something that you want to believe is true?
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Is this something you know to be true or something you believe to be true?
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This is what Bulleh Shah is saying.
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And then the final line to that verse is remarkable.
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He says, we may say our prayers, we may do our practices, but do we believe it with our own heart?
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Do we?
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Do we honestly feel there is truth there?
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We normally seek to know God outta fear.
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But not out of a real thirst to know this reality.
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Do we really want to know this reality or is it merely, I want to know this God, because if I don't, something bad will happen.
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I will go to hell.
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I will be in suffering.
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I will have to live another life.
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No, this is not the way.
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This is not what Bulleh Shah wants us to do.
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Then he says, has the truth ever remained, unfolded and concealed.
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In one point the whole tale is concluded.
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The truth has never been hidden.
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Never has it been taken away, hidden away.
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Not at all.
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Why would the truth be hidden?
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Why?
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Nobody, there is no power in this existence that can hide such a self luminous truth.
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It's self revealing, self illuminating.
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Nothing can hide it.
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No darkness can even put an end to that light.
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It cannot even cover it minutely.
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This is the power of the truth.
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It's not something, you know, when it says, unfolded here means unrevealed.
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It's not something you can fold away and put in your pocket and pretend nobody knows it.
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Whoever says the truth is like that is lying to you.
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It may be a secret, but it's an open secret.
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Once this truth is revealed to you, you see it everywhere.
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There is not one place where this truth is hidden and this is what Bulleh Shah Ji is saying, and it's worth thinking of, this question, has the truth ever remained, unfolded and concealed?
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We think of the past of avatars and the gurus, but has the truth ever been extinguished?
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Look at it.
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We are remembering Bulleh Shah Ji today.
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We've been thinking about Sree Narayana Guruji.
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We've been looking at the Bhagavad Gita with Sri Krishna.
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We looked at the teachings of Guru Nanak Dev Ji and Kabir ji J Krishnamurti ji, Osho, Ramana Maharishi, Swami Vivekananda ji, it has been growing.
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They have not been forgotten.
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Therefore, this truth can never be concealed, therefore, focus on this one Reality, and the whole story is finished.
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The story of this separate being when there's only this One Reality.
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A few move to the woods and others to the seas.
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A few eat none but a grain.
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They get exhausted and attract pain.
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They return home wary and tired.
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Some people go, to escape life.
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They go to the mountains, they go to the forest, some go to the jungle in pursuit of spirituality, in pursuit of enlightenment, and some go out to the sea, meaning in pursuit for wealth.
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So you have both, worldly people and spiritual people.
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Some are beggars and they eat whatever is given and what happens.
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They get hungry, they starve themselves and the body experiences pain.
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The very body that has been created, they say by their Lord and they're punishing the very creation of their Lord.
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How does that make any logical sense?
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You know, Mahatma Buddha, he starved himself for so many days.
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He was asked by his wife when he returned back as Mahatma Buddha, he was asked by his wife that, did you have to do all this, that you did to get to enlightenment?
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Could you not have stayed at the palace?
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And he is rumored to have said, you're right.
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I didn't have to do all that.
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I could have stayed in the palace and got what I got.
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Simple.
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If somebody ends up begging or they just eat one grain of rice because that's all they get.
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Either they would get sick, they would get malnourished, or they missed their life that they previously lived, where they will start thinking about food.
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They will start dreaming about feasts.
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Their meditation would be about feasts as well, what food they used to eat.
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So what happens?
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They didn't achieve anything.
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They're now malnourished.
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They get exhausted.
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They return back home wary and tired.
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But this can be meant in two ways.
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One is that they go back to their life they lived in the world, defeated, known to have failed.
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They went to see God and found nothing, or they die and into the next life because they did nothing to get happiness in this life.
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They were not satisfied.
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They were not content.
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Let me take it a step further.
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They returned home very and tired, maybe old.
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Not only did they lose the juice of youth, but they lost out on the upbringing of their children, a decent relationship with their wife or their spouse, they missed out on their grandchildren.
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They missed out on deep conversations with friends.
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That's why spirituality is not about leaving the home, I don't think it's about becoming a monk.
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I really believe that the truth is best realized while you're in the world, and trust me, every monk has to return to the world.
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Where else have these monasteries began?
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Where else do vedanta classes occur?
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Where else?
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In the world! Nobody lets go of the world.
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Everybody has to come back.
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Therefore, it's best to attain everything in this world and offer your services accordingly, your seva accordingly.
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A few of them in Mystic seclusion retired.
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In one point the whole tale is concluded.
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Some have it so simple that they just meditate on the Formless and soon as they meditate, they enter into a oneness with the Formless and everything comes to an end.
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How can we make this easier for us?
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How can we get to that blissful state that even ascetics, monks they cannot attain.
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And what worldly people with all the riches of the world cannot attain.
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So what can happen is even a few people, they may get the mystical experiences, but they don't know what to do next.
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They may go to the jungle, they may face some success.
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But what happens?
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And this in the next verse, Bulleh Shah Ji says: Secure a mentor who would lead to divinity.
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Divine frenzy contains contentment, absolute.
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The divine love would direct you to eternity.
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The heart is gushing out with the truth.
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Beautiful, absolutely beautiful.
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And there's this verse, these four lines are very, very important in spirituality.
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First of all, he says, secure a mentor, find a guru, a teacher, a mentor for spirituality.
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Now you don't have to approach just a Guru.
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Now you can have many mentors in spirituality.
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People who do not call themselves gurus.
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They may be like me who have a podcast and we will help anybody.
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We are not looking for the Sadhguru (Jaggi Vasudev) type of fame.
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We are not looking for that type of following.
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In fact, a mentor will always be looking for quality.
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A friend, a spiritual friend always looks for quality.
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And I would even go further to say that you have certain gurus that I know of personally who even empower their own disciples, and they even give the same level of respect to their own disciples and that is unique.
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Those are the true teachers.
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Those that say only they can be.
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If you see someone as a one man show, or one person show and have not created a next line of rishis or swamis or so forth.
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Real ones a real tradition, a real sampradaya, stay away.
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If we want to truly have any experiences of the divine, we must seek out those that know the Formless.
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This is true.
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Anyone that can get you closer to the awareness of Formless Awareness, the awareness and Nirguna Brahman, that is a person to go for, do not let go of that person.
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Once you find them seek the Truth as much as you can, and be honest, be sincere, and listen and comprehend.
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Don't ask questions for the sake of it.
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Live the answers first.
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Experience them.
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We must ask the mentor to take us to that Ultimate Reality.
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We can't simply accept that, oh, because they're spiritual, they have to do this.
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No, we must first ask them, and we must ensure that the mentor will help us get there.
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The spiritual coach would get us there.
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The spiritual teacher would get us there.