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Hello and welcome to The Bearded Mystic Podcast and I'm your host, Rahul N Singh.
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In the last episode we looked at verses 44 to 46.
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Because you have free will, you can control your actions, but you are never in control of the fruit or ultimate outcome of what you do.
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Therefore, never let attachment to the fruits be the ultimate reason for your actions.
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Conversely, do not simply retreat into a state of detached inaction.
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This verse is often talked about and is very popular.
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However, it does require a deep understanding and a lot of people talk about not thinking of the results of one's actions, and it's very popular in the Indian mindset, but I often find that it's not really practiced.
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Before we start, I want to go over a few things because for someone to truly understand and practice this verse, we need to be able to do a few things or be able to comprehend a few things.
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So first of all, that person needs to strengthen their viveka, discernment by knowing what is sat, that which is real and asat that, which is unreal.
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This is the first criteria that's definitely needed.
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Remember that Sat is simply Brahman, the Atman or in Sankhya, it is referred to as a Purusha.
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This is a witness consciousness within us.
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This is real because it is changeless, birthless and eternal, formless and complete in itself.
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It is purnam.
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Asat, that which is always changing, modifying and transient.
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This in Sankhya is known as Prakriti or nature.
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Some can also refer this to be Maya.
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It appears to be real, but it is unreal.
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However, everything is as real as you are part of prakriti itself.
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Remember Asat is directly translated as the unreal.
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Then we need to understand that viveka is about knowing both of these things, meaning sat and asat and living in harmony with both.
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This then builds the foundation in order to practice this verse without any conflict or issues.
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This is very important because a lot of people like to condemn Maya or they like to condemn nature, or they say we need to avoid nature or avoid Maya.
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I say don't avoid it.
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In fact it's better to embrace it because it is also a part of you.
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It may be reflected consciousness, but it is still real.
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When you have pain, you feel the pain.
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When you feel happy, you feel happy.
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When your senses taste a brilliant dish, you feel that it's tasty.
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That is real for you.
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To say it's unreal would not be doing justification to maya or justification to the experience that we have.
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This relative reality, this transactional reality, it is always going to be here, but in the background needs to be our awareness and that awareness is Brahman.
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That awareness is your atman, it is the self.
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Shri Krishna says you have free will, therefore you can control your actions.
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So what does this mean?
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The question that I had when I was looking at this is what about the belief about there is God's Will.
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A lot of people talk about God's Will or God's plan.
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Or God is writing our story.
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Or God is behind everything and that we must accept whatever is in the will of God.
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I was thinking why did Shri Krishna talk about having free will?
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Firstly, we need to understand that this witness consciousness, this Nirguna Brahman, Attribute-less Awareness is not a doer of any action.
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Therefore, there is no such thing as God's will.
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If God did have a will and it could be manipulated, then that means God has favoritism.
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If that is the case, then God is simply less than those sages that have samdrishti, which is the vision of sameness.
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This is something to really think about because a lot of us think that there is God's will and we have to accept it.
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But here I'm kind of feeling that Shri Krishna doesn't want us to do that because we have to be responsible for the actions that we do.
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If God did have a will and he only changed it for his favorite devotees' or for those that are religious then that would mean that he's partial and therefore, if God is partial then is he just?
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If he is not just then is he worthy of any worship?
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That's why I really like non-duality or Advaita Vedanta because it talks about Nirguna Brahman.
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If something is truly attribute-less, it cannot have any favoritism.
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It cannot be manipulated.
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That's why I really like the concept of Nirguna Brahman.
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We all have free will when it comes to our basic actions and reactions.
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We are also free to choose what we want to do.
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At the end of the day, nobody can stop you from doing what you want to do.
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Even if you imply that somebody else has stopped you, you made that choice.
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It's not that you didn't choose that to happen.
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You did.
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We may not have caused a situation to occur and can sometimes land in them but we can choose how to respond.
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It may occur at some point that a situation has happened.
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You had no control of it.
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Therefore, how did it happen to you?
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There must be someone writing this.
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There must be something behind it.
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There must be some sort of law of karma operating.
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But here you get to choose how to respond to a situation.
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Now that you've been given the knowledge of what is sat and asat, you can make the decision to do what is right.
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This is what Shri Krishna is really guiding us and really wanting us to go towards.
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Those grounded in Brahman will be able to control their actions and respond.
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Therefore taking a path which creates peace or joy, or if it is a very dire situation, the action that leads to less suffering.
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Those in the clutches of the ego or a false identification will be reacting and may cause that action, which leads to more suffering.
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I'm talking about paap and punya.
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Punya meaning that action which leads to less suffering or towards merit.
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While paap is that action or activity which leads to more suffering.
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Now, when we are in the ego, when we falsely identify with the unreal, we tend to react to situations therefore causing more disturbance.
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But if we are grounded in Brahman, if we are in the awareness of Brahman, then we're able to control how we react to a situation.
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We actually choose to respond.
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We assess everything.
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We take our time and that's why it's very important to be grounded in Brahman.
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Grounded in Sat and grounded in what is Real.
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As I mentioned, some may see this as the law of Karma or what goes around, comes back around.
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These are nice ideas, but it is not a law like gravity.
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And we need to really understand that.
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It is simply our choice of actions and the consequences or merits of those actions.
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Don't make it more complicated.
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If we start having degrees of what an action does or the implications of an action, it will only cause disturbance in our mind.
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We'd be constantly agitated and anxious about what we're going to do.
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Therefore, it's best to keep it simple.
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Do those actions which cause less suffering because you are doing those actions because you are grounded in Brahman, in the Ultimate Reality, in Pure Consciousness.
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Shri Krishna says, but you are never in control of the fruit or ultimate outcome of what you do.
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Therefore never let attachment to the fruits be the ultimate reason for your actions.
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This is very, very deep.
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Again, this is the part of the verse that is very popular.
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Again, I want to emphasize that it requires proper understanding.
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It requires us to introspect upon what is being said.
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Whatever you do, you cannot assume that your action will have a particular outcome.
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So what might be right today, could be wrong tomorrow.
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And what is wrong today, may be understood as being the right thing tomorrow.
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This is why we do not think about the outcome and that we just let life flow as it should be, let the results appear as they should be, and then deal with those things.
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Now, the fruits doesn't mean that it's maybe a positive result.
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It could be something that we may not like, it may be negative, but the thing is we do not do anything for a negative reaction nor for a positive reaction.
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We rather just let things be, as they are.
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Remember, keeping that evenness of mind, that samdrishti, seeing everything as sameness, not being swayed to the positive, nor swayed to the negative.
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Everyone assesses a situation according to their nurture and nature.
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Therefore, if you are judged, let it go.
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Remind yourself that you are Brahman, and therefore the fruit has no impact upon you.
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Remember whether it's good or bad.
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If you gather good results for what you have done, do not get attached to it.
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Do not start thinking, oh, I've done something good.
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Therefore I deserve to be praised or I deserve to be acknowledged.
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Just let it be.
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Don't be attached to it.
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If you've had good results, well done but move on.
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There is a great example that I once heard in satsang.
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I'm paraphrasing here.
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That our good actions are like a golden spoon while bad actions are like a silver spoon.
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If we are attached to either or both of them, then we are still stuck in duality.
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Therefore, let go of the action itself, then naturally you will not be attached to the results or fruit of the action.
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Even when we say we do good deeds and that good deeds need to be done, being attached to that idea or attached to the results of that is like holding onto a golden spoon.
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At the end of the day, you're still attached to something.
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The saints and sages of the past, have all talked about just letting go of your actions.
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Don't be attached to them, do not be attracted to the results of them.
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Do not think about the outcome of them.
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Let the actions take care of themselves.
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Let the results take care of themselves.
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Remember that interpretation modifies and changes with time, therefore, all action is asat, unreal and so is a fruit and the ultimate outcome.
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There's only one fruit and ultimate outcome that will not change and which is set.
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And that is when you attain moksha.
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That action of jivan-mukti, of liberated whilst living, transcending the ego is the only act, which is Sat, which is the truth, which is real.
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That is because your natural state is Brahman.
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It is ananda, it is bliss.
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Don't commit to any actions because you want a particular outcome or fruit of that action.
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Just act with the basic understanding that one must perform action or make choices that causes less suffering in both short-term and, or long-term.
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Sometimes short term pain can cause growth in the long-term and sometimes short-term gain may cause losses in the long-term.
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We need to be aware enough, alert enough to understand the short-term impacts and the long-term impacts of whatever we do.
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Only act then.
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Take your time, don't rush.
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When you take your time, you're able to fully see a situation, whatever you are thinking to do, assess it alongside with the knowledge of Brahman that you've got.
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That will be the best way to know what causes less suffering.
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Conversely, do not simply retreat into a state of detached inaction.
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This does not mean that one simply ends up doing nothing because one, shouldn't be attached to the fruits.
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That would be a very incorrect understanding.
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What Shri Krishna is saying is that if we're saying not to be attached to the fruits, that does not mean that you then ignore action altogether.
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There's no way you can ignore action.
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As we live in this maya, this transactional relative reality, we must have detached action, not detached inaction.
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Detached action means that we act, but with detachment of the body and mind.
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The only way to do that is if we act in the awareness of Brahman, of the ultimate reality, that is the one day.
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If we think we can do detached inaction, it's impossible and I'll go into why that is.
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Dharma means that we commit to the path.
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Dharma means that we commit to that path that creates joy and harmony.
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If we are going to run to a mountain and not deal with the atrocities of the world, even for the pursuit of enlightenment, we are in danger.
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A lot of people leave this world, leave their families, leave their careers to go to a mountain, to try and attain peace.
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But how is that going to happen?
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But how is that going to create enlightenment.
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At the end of the day, you just run away from your mind.
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Your mind is still with you.
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You think you've ran away from it, but your mind is always within you.
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To really overcome the mind is to live in the world and face the challenges and be in awareness of Brahman.
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Always bring things back to this background awareness.
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That Brahman is.
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That is the most important thing to do.
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We all have a responsibility as global citizens to take care of those that are oppressed.
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And at the same time, we need to look after this planet.
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This is why detached action is very much needed.
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A person of yoga, of viveka, the knower of Brahman, they always support those that are being marginalized in society.
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They don't belong to any caste, religion, color, or nationality or any other sort of label.
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They simply act in order to benefit humanity.
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Krishna is also warning Arjuna that he should not let his mind be cunning to think that he can have detached inaction and that this is a possibility because he should not perform actions for the fruits that can be attained.
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He knows that Arjuna may start thinking that if the fruits of my actions do not belong to me, then I don't need to do anything.
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I can run away.
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Yet, little does he know that the mind will ignore the very first thing that Shri Krishna said, which was that we all have free will and we all make choices.
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Even the act of Sannyasa, of renunciation, of running away to the jungles or to the mountains or to the Himalayas is an action in itself.
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Normally with some motive or intention of a particular result, we cannot escape that.
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No matter what we do, even if the motive is enlightenment, it is still a result that we are hankering.
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This is why it's very important that we understand what Shri Krishna is saying, that we all make choices, we have free will to make the choice.
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The larger context may be that eventually when we look at life from an observer point of view, we may feel that we do not have any free will, that there are things that we do because of the choices other people make.
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Certain situations occur because of what we've done in the past.
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But remember we still have the choice to change things right now, to change things in the present.
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Now I'm going to go into what a few well renowned individuals have said about this verse.
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Adi Shankara ji explains whenever you have a hankering for the fruits of action, you will become the agent of acquiring the results of action.
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So if you want a particular result, you will become the doer.
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What Krishna wants Arjuna to do is to commit to action, but without thinking of the results, whether it is destruction or for peace.
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We do not hanker for the fruits of the action.
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For example, if Arjuna thinks that by running away, the fruit of that action will be that there will be peace, he's misguided.
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That doesn't mean there will be peace.
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That's why Krishna wants Arjuna to commit to action because even under the guise of inaction, there is action.
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Then Swami Nikhilananda in his notes, mentions a few things.
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The word karma has different meanings.
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It primarily means action.
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It also means the tendencies, impulses, habits, characteristics and so on formed by action and thus it denotes the subtle impression of action, which determine the future embodiment environment.
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In short, the whole future life, whether on earth or in any other plane of existence.
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No matter what it's not just action, but our tendencies, our impulses, our habits, they all have an impact.
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Then a third meaning of karma, often using reference to one's position in life is duty.
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The course of conduct, one ought to follow in pursuance of the tendencies acquired as a result of past actions with a view to working them out and regaining the pristine purity of the Self.
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This is mainly talking about one's position in life, but also because of the tendencies of past actions, we need to work them out in order to attain liberation.
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That's the ultimate path for us.
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To discover the self, we have to remove those tendencies that take us away from the self.
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Then Swami Ram Sukh Das ji says actions have a beginning and an end.
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These are not eternal.
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So how can their fruits be eternal?
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But the self is eternal.
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How can the Eternal get any benefit from the perishable.
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By understanding this fact one becomes detached from the world and attains self-realization.
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Fruits themselves of any action is not eternal.
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It has a timespan.
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A relatively short time span in this day and age.
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What is bad today is forgotten tomorrow because there's a new headline.
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So Swami Ram Sukh Das ji is very right here.
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The real way to get detached from the world is by understanding that how can the Eternal get any benefit from the perishable?
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How can Brahman get any benefit from maya?
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From this transactional reality?
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Nothing at all.
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Therefore the results are happening in the transactional reality, They're not happening to Brahman.
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The reality within you is unaffected.
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When we understand this, then we get self-realization.
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Then we have completely understood what Brahman is.
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Then we have completely become Brahman.
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He continues to say, you should not have the least attachment for the body, senses, mind and intellect, because attachment for these will make you responsible for the fruit of action.
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Very clearly said.
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The best way is to have little attachment?
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Whenever we do something, just have no attachment at all to it.
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Just act in the action itself.
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It sounds very vague and very roundabout, but it makes sense when you do it, it really does make sense.
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Then he says, by leaning towards inaction, you will become lazy and idle and like the desire for fruit, it will also mislead you to bondage.
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The reason is that laziness and prolonged sleep also gives pleasure.
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Sometimes we do get lazy and we enjoy being lazy.
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It's nice.
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But it also binds us.
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Yeah.
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That also has a consequence.
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Remember in the last episode, we talked about how shukra snow wants us to transcend power and pleasure.
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Therefore if laziness or inaction gives us pleasure, then it's worth being dropped.
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Action and inaction should both be transcended.
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Swami Chinmayananda ji says philosophy is not a subject that can be rightly understood by hasty students.
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The stanza that is now under review, when not properly understood will seem to indicate an impossible method.
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At the best it will look as if it was a religious sanction for the poor to continue being poor and the sacred permission for the rich to continue tyrannizing over the poor.
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To act in life without any expectations of results would seem to be almost impossible to the one who's only trying to understand the stanza mentally.
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But when the same individual, after he studies or she studies and walks out into the open fields of life and tries to practice it there, that person shall discover that this alone is the very secret of all the real achievements.
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How to understand this is that we have to practice this form of detached action, that we do action, but we remain detached from it.
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We remain away from the results.
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We should forget the action in the very next moment.