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Singh.
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Today we will be continuing on with my thoughts on the Bhagavad Gita and we will be looking at Chapter 11 verses 14 to verse 27.
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There is a lot to go through in these verses but a lot of them should be quick and things that don't need too much explanation but it's important for us to understand that this is obviously about his Virat Roop.
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This is about that vast vision that Arjuna now has while he is witnessing the true vastness of what Brahman really is.
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When we look at Brahman, we have Nirguna and Saguna.
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So this is the Nirguna aspect, not the Saguna aspect.
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Saguna aspect is, you know, many attributes, it's the expansive vastness.
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And Nirguna is when all attributes can be dissolved away and it can remain as it is, or awareness can remain pure as it is, and the Shared Being is the vastness.
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So what Arjuna has seen or is seeing, is this Shared Being.
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So let's get into these verses and discover more of what Arjuna discovers and witnesses.
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Verse 14.
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Immediately Arjuna was overwhelmed by the amazing sights he saw.
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With his hair standing on end, he bowed down to Sri Krishna.
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Holding out his hands in the Anjali Mudra as if offering flowers, he began to speak.
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So let's break this verse down a little.
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Immediately, Arjuna was overwhelmed by the amazing sights he saw.
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This is pretty clear.
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I mean, he saw the vast form of the Lord and it was a lot for him to comprehend.
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It was amazing.
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We know that these were sights that he has never seen before, but we also need to understand what this will have on his mental state.
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He has seen Sri Krishna as a friend, as a brother, as someone close to him, and today he, in that moment, he saw him as something other than that.
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He saw the vastness of what his friend really was.
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We have to understand that the vision that he sees is a lot for him to take in and even if we had to try to comprehend the vastness of this Lord, if we can even think of this whole universe, if we can't even comprehend the universe, how can we comprehend the Shared Being?
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This is something we need to kind of consider when we are looking at these verses.
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Then it continues to say that with his hair standing on end, he bowed down to Sri Krishna, holding out his hands in the Anjali mudra as if offering flowers he began to speak.
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What you can say is that Sri Krishna gave Arjuna goosebumps.
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When Arjuna saw the vastness of the form, it gave him goosebumps.
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You know that feeling when your hair stand on the back of your neck and you get that chilling feeling.
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That's what Arjuna was feeling at that time, and in that amazement, in that wondrous feeling, he then bows down to Sri Krishna and as one should when someone has received this great wisdom from the Guru, one should always bow down.
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Firstly he does the respectful thing of understanding what Sri Krishna is and therefore allows himself to bow down.
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And naturally, I feel that when you feel that there's a sense of grace working for you, when you feel that life seems to be working hand in hand with you without you doing much effort, you feel that something else is moving the universe, even though it's simply the choices you're making or the choices you can make within the parameter of destiny or predetermination or you make the right choices with the choices you are presented.
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In that state you automatically bow down.
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I've done that with my Guru too.
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These are natural feelings.
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One is, the other thing is, it's a sign of humility.
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One thing that separates Arjuna from Duryodhana is the humility aspect and humility for me, like I mentioned in a podcast before, is a very important quality and attribute that a seeker must have and should desire to have and think about it, that this whole Shared Being, this Saguna Brahman is the charioteer for Arjuna.
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And he's acting like a normal human being to the rest of humanity.
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They do not understand the true vastness of who he is.
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So, if you think from Arjuna's perspective, he now realises that he's got no ordinary person with him.
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And he may have known this in the back of his mind, but to have it presented to you is very, very different.
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Yeah.
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And then he holds his hands in the, anjali mudra, which is basically this.
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It is very similar to the namaz that people do.
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What I can say here is that in sanatana dharma we've already had that mudra where we hold out our hands and try to receive grace, and that's the whole point is to receive grace, the benevolence, the kindness of the Lord.
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Now he has to muster up the strength to speak and which he does.
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Arjuna said: O greatest Deva, I see all the other devas there within Your cosmic body.
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Indeed, I see every kind of being assembled there.
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In addition, I see the creator of all, Brahma, who is the greatest of all material ishas, sitting upon his kamala asana‘lotus flower seat’.
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I also see the divya rishis‘the enlightened seers’ and the mighty Nagas.
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The first part of the verse is Arjuna said: O Greatest Deva, I see all the other Devas there within your cosmic body.
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Indeed, I see every kind of being assembled there.
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So there's two parts to that first part that we're looking at.
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One, he says, O Greatest Deva.
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The first thing we know is that the Devas, the Deva of Devas, the Absolute is Sri Krishna.
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And remember, this is Brahman.
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And he says, I see all the other devas there within your cosmic body.
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So, whoever is our isht devta, we will see the other devas in their cosmic body.
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For example, if you see Shivji as your greatest deva, you will see all the other deities, all the other devas also, including Krishna, within Shivji's cosmic body.
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So the cosmic body is obviously the Shared Being.
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So here, we can establish that all the other devas are within that Ultimate Cosmic Being, which is Brahman, Saguna Brahman, Isvara, or the Shared Being, or in this aspect, any of our isht devtas and for the Bhagavad Gita, the isht devta is Sri Krishna.
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And it's important, your guru will always be your greatest ever.
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So for Arjuna, remember, he bowed down and he surrendered to Sri Krishna, therefore Sri Krishna became his guru and Arjuna became his disciple.
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So it's only respectful and honourable that that is repeated again.
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Then the other part is, he says, indeed, I see every kind of being assembled there.
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So not just the devas, I see everything.
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All infinite names and forms of different parts of existence, different creatures, different beings.
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I see all of them within you.
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So now what you got to try to think of is the whole universe and all its wondrous life forms, those that we know of, those that we do not know of, that the scriptures have told us about.
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This is what Arjuna is talking about.
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So the whole vast cosmos is in the Shared Being, that's what Arjuna is saying.
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Then he says in the second part of that verse, In addition, I see the creator of all, Brahma, who is the greatest of all material Ishas, sitting upon his kamala asana, the lotus flower seat.
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I also see the Divya Rishis, the Enlightened Seers, and the mighty Nagas.
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First of all, he sees the creator Brahma there and we know that Brahma is the greatest, manifest deva for creation.
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Everything we see manifested is because of Brahma.
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He sits on his lotus seat.
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Again, this also implies the blossoming of realization.
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And remember, Brahma's consort, who's always next to him, is Maa Saraswati, who is the Devi of Knowledge.
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And without knowledge, there is no creation, there is no way we can bring name and form into our mind.
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Then he also talks about how he sees all the Rishis there, the Divya Rishis.
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Remember he uses the word Divya Rishis, which is enlightened Rishis, the enlightened seers, the divine seers.
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And they're all part of this whole cosmos.
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And then he also talks about the celestial serpents, which is the Nagas, and that they are also there, and he's also seeing them.
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Then verse 16.
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I see your infinite roop, or form, extending in every direction.
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I see endless arms, bodies, faces, and eyes.
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There is no beginning, no middle, and no end to your endless manifestations.
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O Sri Krishna, O Vishwa, Ishwara, Vishwaroopa, Your unlimited form is this entire universe.
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Let's look at the first part of this verse.
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Magnificent verse when you think about it.
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I see your infinite roop form extending in every direction.
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I see endless arms, bodies, faces and eyes.
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Just imagine that you can see this right now.
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If it helps you to close your eyes.
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Think of seeing Sri Krishna's form everywhere and not only is there two arms, there's many, many, many arms and bodies and faces and eyes, like they're basically multiplying like cells and it's everywhere and everywhere you look at, every direction, you see this Ultimate Self, you see the Sri Krishna.
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Then it says, there is no beginning, no middle, and no end to your endless manifestations.
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O Sri Krishna, O Vishwa, Ishwara, Vishwaroopa.
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Which means your unlimited form is this entire universe.
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So first of all, there is no beginning here.
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Where can I find the beginning?
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And if there is no beginning, I cannot find no end to you.
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So there's no beginning to your form, there's no end to your form.
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And if there's no beginning and no end, where is the middle?
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There cannot be any middle to your form.
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So there's no end to your endless manifestations.
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You're in everything.
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There's not one iota of this cosmos that isn't you, is what Arjuna is talking about, which is absolutely brilliant.
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What we can understand here is that the true form of Brahman is limitless.
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The Shared Being is limitless.
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Then he says, O Sri Krishna, O Vishwa, Ishvara, Vishvarupa, which means your unlimited form is this entire universe.
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So Vishvarupa means the universal form and Vishva Ishvara means the lord of the universe.
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So you are the lord of this entire universe and you have a limitless form.
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You have a universal form.
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This form of the universe is you.
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So this unlimited form is the manifestation of the Ultimate Reality.
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What we call Maya is none other than the manifestation of Ishvara, the manifestation of Sri Krishna, the manifestation of our Guru.
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That is what verse 16 is all about.
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And that's a wonderful way of us understanding the true value of our Guru, and that's an ideal way to even meditate upon the Lord.
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Then verse 17.
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Now I see you.
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Your many heads are wearing crowns and you are armed with divine weapons like the club and the disc.
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Your immense splendor is shining brilliantly in every direction.
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But you are exceedingly difficult to see because of your blazing, fiery, and immeasurable sun like radiance.
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Remember in a previous verse we know that Arjuna says it's like a thousand suns rising.
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That's how bright that light is.
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So we understand what he's talking about here.
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In the first part of the verse he says, Now I see you, your many heads are wearing crowns and you are armed with divine weapons like the club and the disc.
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So Arjuna directly says that the many heads, his infinite number of forms are all wearing crowns.
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Everything is the divine king, the divine sovereign of all existence.
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So even if something thinks it's lowly, actually it's the highest.
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It's the sovereign because it's Sri Krishna itself.
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And because he is the king, everything else is part of his kingdom and they are him, therefore all of it is crowned king.
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His countless arms all have divine weapons to defeat ignorance in this world.
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This is what that's about.
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The club and the disc is to remove darkness, to remove evil, to remove those that cause harm to others.
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To ensure...
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that they can defeat people at the right time.
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And that's what this part of the verse means.
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Then he says, Your immense splendor is shining brightly in every direction, but you are exceedingly difficult to see because of your blazing, fiery, and immeasurable sun-like radiance.
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So this great luminosity of Being is shining immensely, it's shining brilliantly in every direction.
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All you can see is this great splendor, this great light and he's saying that at the end now it's very difficult to see you because now he's going back into naam and roop, to separation.
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So now he says well, there's this blazing fiery and immeasurable sun like radiance.
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Now he's starting to see distinctions and this now means that he's starting to lose sight of that true self.
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And this is what happens, we need to understand that when the light is truly given to you, it is difficult to see.
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It is difficult to understand Brahm Gyan.
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It is difficult to understand wisdom.
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It is difficult to understand the scriptures properly.
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And then, you need to have this blazing, fiery, and immeasurable sun like radiance.
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You need something that is terrifying because that will remove and burn away all of the karma, all the vasanas, and most of all, it will remove our ignorance, which has got us stuck in this rut.
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Which has got us...
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To believe that we are separate beings.
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This distinction he makes shows that Arjuna is now showing that he is separate to this and therefore doesn't see himself as that same sovereign or he's trying to tell people, well, this is what's happening to me right now.
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Most of all, the one thing I do like it says, it's an immeasurable sun-like radiance.
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There is no way you can measure the end or beginning of this light, this radiance.
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And it's, it's a light that is literally enveloping and expanding into everything in all directions.
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Verse 18.
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You are the supreme and unchanging reality.
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You are the ultimate vision to be seen.
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You are the resting place of all that exists.
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You are the immortal protector of dharma, which dharma means here, all that is true.
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And I'm certain that you are the original and Ultimate Person.
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Brilliant.
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You are the supreme and unchanging reality.
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You are the ultimate vision to be seen.
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What we know here, when someone says you are the supreme and unchanging reality, what is that unchanging reality?
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This Nirguna Brahman, this Formless Awareness itself.
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So we know that this is the highest aspect that Arjuna is seeing of Sri Krishna.
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So he understands that you are the most supreme, and you are that unchanging reality.
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You are the only reality that exists.
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There is no other reality.
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Yeah, there is no other reality that exists here.
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There is only you.
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You are the ultimate vision to be seen.
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What more does one want to see?
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It's beyond the seven wonders of the world.
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It's beyond the marvelous nature and expanding universe.
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It's beyond all this too.
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It says you are the ultimate vision to be seen.
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Again showing why Brahm Gyan is the true insight into Brahman.
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Once we have Brahm Gyan, we understand this very line here, that you are the ultimate vision to be seen, and you are the supreme and unchanging reality.
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Then he says, you are the resting place of all that exists.
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You are the immortal protector of dharma, all that is true.
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And I am certain that you are the original and Ultimate Person.
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First of all, you are the resting place of all that exists.
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Everything rests in you.
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You are the support, you are the shelter, you are what everybody needs and requires.
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All will find their peace in this Brahman, in this Saguna Brahman, in this Shared Being.
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And you are the immortal protector of Dharma.
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All that is true.
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Whatever is truth in this world, you are the protector of that for immortality.
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See false knowledge, false beliefs, blind faith, all these things will never win because of this immortal protector.
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And what is the immortal protector?
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This Gyan itself, this wisdom itself, the insights into Brahman, and then the realization of Brahman completely protects dharma.
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So you know those people that talk about wanting to save Hinduism or protect dharma, read the scriptures.
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Spend your time actually studying the scriptures, forget about what other people are saying.
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The more you see what happens today with social media, and we think we are doing Krishna's job.
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Yeah, of protecting dharma because Sri Krishna says to do so, He is one and this is what the Bhagavad Gita is about.
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No, don't misuse the Gita for your selfish reasons.
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The reasons why we read the Gita is so we can understand that our dharma needs our full focus.
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Meaning, the true protection is fully living a realized life.
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That is dharma.
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Then you know all that is true.
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Then you can be the true upholder of truth.
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That's what needs to be understood here.
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I will emphasize that if we practice and we become the very message that Sri Krishna was delivering then Sanatana Dharma will never be defeated and it can never die.
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But the moment we become culturally Hindus or culturally Dharmic, then get ready for the destruction that will follow.
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Because when you, the one thing that makes Dharma so incredible is its knowledge, not its culture.
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The culture's there because of the knowledge.
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The moment you forget the knowledge, all that culture just becomes dogma.
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And we know what happens to dogmatic beliefs.
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Sri Krishna has also warned us about that.
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That is the true enemy.
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And sometimes the enemy can be within.
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Even though we think we are doing a good act, but sometimes the actions are leading somewhere else.
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Then he says, And I am certain that you are the original and Ultimate person.
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This is why the Bhagavad Gita is a purely non dual text and the reason why I say that is here.
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He says, and I am certain that you are the original.
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Once you have the original, everything else is fake.
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Everything else is mithya.
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The only original is Nirguna Brahman, and the Ultimate Person.
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There's only You.
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There is no me and many other jivas.
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There's only you, the one, the ultimate person.
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What we can understand here is that there is none other than Brahman.
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There's none other than Sri Krishna's true reality, which is Brahman itself, the same reality.
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And nothing goes past this Brahman, and Brahman is the only thing, very simply.
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If we keep this as the truth, then Dharma will continue to not only grow and prosper, but it'll reach the hearts where it's meant to, and it'll reach the intellect and the intelligence of those that may be going against it in...
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On paper, but in practice, Dharma is the only destination they can reach.
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This one truth can never be forgotten, which is Brahman is the only reality.
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This is the original and ultimate, alone.
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Your infinite powers are without beginning, middle, or end.