Thoughts on The Bhagavad Gita (Chapter 11: Verse 1 - Verse 13)

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Hello and welcome to the Bearded Mystic Podcast and I'm your host,Rahul N.Singh.Thank you for taking out the time today to either watch or listen to this podcast episode.If you are really interested in supporting The Bearded Mystic Podcast,and you've found great benefit in listening or watching these episodes,then please do support this podcast on Patreon where you can get ad free and bonus episodes along with other benefits depending on the tier that you select.Your support means everything,and it really does help the podcast keep running efficiently and smoothly,and also widens the audience that this message can reach to.If you would like to know more about it,the details are in the show notes and video description below.On Saturdays at11:00AM Eastern Standard Time there is a free virtual meditation session along with discussion and Q&A.If you're interested in meditating with us as a community,then you can find out the details in the show notes and video description below.Please do 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see how Arjuna feels about it,but it's a very interesting chapter.There's a lot to probably digest and dissect when we're going through these verses.So here we go.Verse1.Arjuna said:out of kindness and affection for me,you have just revealed the Ultimate Secret knowledge concerning your true nature as adyatmika,the Supreme Being and the source of all that is.Because of your words,my moha or delusion has now been removed.This is a very interesting verse and again it sets up the scene of what's going to happen.So first of all he's,he appreciates,Arjuna says the secret knowledge that you gave about some aspects,some qualities that you showed me,regarding your nature,I really appreciate it.He appreciates it's only a portion and even that has,when he thinks about it,when he recollects it,it has removed aspects of his delusion.And what's that delusion?The delusion that there is separation.What Sri Krishna in that previous chapter in Vibhuti Yoga,what he,he emphasizes is that the source of everything is this Nirguna Brahman,this Formless Awareness,or the Shared Being.Either you see it as Sri Krishna,or you see it as Nirguna Brahman,it's really up to you how you want to take it.But...Ultimately,the source is the same,yeah,the,the origin of everything is the same.So here,we see that Arjuna also understands there is a special power that is driving his chariot in this war.So this is no ordinary person,but still maybe Arjuna may want to see more and maybe he wants to know more.Now,he says,you've just revealed the secret knowledge concerning your nature.So what is Sri Krishna's real nature?A lot of people will see Sri Krishna as a name and form or body and mind.And that's how they will interpret him.That's how they will see him.They will see him as a very ordinary person.But Arjuna has seen something incredible here because he has seen the real roop of Sri Krishna.An aspect,just a few aspects and even with that he is amazed.Now he says,concerning your nature as adyatmika,the Supreme Being,the Supreme Being Nirguna Brahman,and the source of all that is.This Nirguna Brahman that has manifested into this whole existence of the many.So this one is the many.That's what that chapter discusses.And that is the ultimate truth.Remember he says the secret knowledge.So,we will go into what that secret knowledge is further.But I want us to understand that we are not to see anything other than this oneness,this formless oneness.Yeah,it's in existence.There's a very beautiful Song that I know where they say'tera roop hai sansaar'and what that means is your roop,your face your image is this sansaar this existence this world and again,the moment you do that and you see everything as Nirguna Brahman or the formless or God.Then you naturally have this respect for nature,for existence,for people,for every living being,yeah?Your whole way of being changes.In fact,your way of life becomes more spiritual.And the thing is,it's established in spirituality because there's nothing but God or nothing but Brahman.So,you will not feel that you are away.Yeah,you will see that it's everywhere.Then Arjuna obviously says,because of your words,right now,just the words have been shown.Yeah,or heard.Nothing visual has happened yet.Yeah,nothing visual,just your words have explained.And he says,even your words have removed my delusion,somewhat.Now,the second verse:O kamala patra akshi'O Lotus Eyed One',whose eyes are as beautiful as the petals of a blooming lotus.Very beautiful.I have heard from you in detail about how the countless beings are manifested within matter and then dissolved again and again.I have also learned that you are the greatest Atma who pervades all and can never be destroyed.We're gonna break this verse up a little.The first part,O kamala patra akshi'O Lotus Eyed One'whose eyes are as beautiful as the petals of a blooming lotus,I have heard from you in detail about how the countless beings are manifested within matter and then dissolved again and again.First of all,whenever we see our Guru,whenever we see someone who has enlightened us,who wants to take us to the next step of the journey,we refer to them as our Lotus Eyed One.So he's just showing the beauty that Arjuna is seeing in this name and form of Sri Krishna,yeah?There's nothing added here,just this beautiful form of Sri Krishna.And he's saying,your eyes are as beautiful as the petals of a blooming lotus.So he's just showing how beautiful his eyes are.And you know,it's really true,when you look at the eyes of the master,you,you lose...All sense of darkness,you know,for example,there's,um,a very famous song,Sufi song called chaap tilak and in,in chaap tilak,the whole point of the song is that when I bow to you,when I looked at you,when our eyes met,you took everything away,took everything of me away.So there's only You.And you know,it's true.When you see the beauty of the Guru's eyes,that's exactly how you experience life and you experience things.You see beauty everywhere.And so this whole thing of the petals of a blooming Lotus,if you've ever seen a blooming Lotus,it's really,really amazing to witness and you feel that there's no flower that blooms as brightly as a lotus flower.And remember,that lotus flower is born in the mud.So look at the significance here that Arjuna here he's talking about.He's saying that you're a blooming lotus.Yeah,even though you have this name and form,which is just made of matter.But you have risen above this matter too.And then he says,I have heard from you in detail about how the countless beings are manifested within matter and then dissolved again and again.So he understands the cycle of time here,that ultimately whatever manifests within matter has to get dissolved again.Remember he doesn't really say destroyed or dies.I guess,you know,he may use those words in the,in the future,but the,the whole point is to say that things manifest and dissolve again and again,they go in,in that pendulum.So it's not a big deal,so to speak.Yeah.If something manifests.It manifests,it dissolves away,but it's all coming from that same One.So if you see it as something individual and separate,it brings suffering.If you see it as unity,as the One that's representing Itself or manifesting itself in the many,you'll be fine.And that's how a true seeker of spirituality should see this whole existence and each and every living being.The second part of the verse,I have also learned that you are the greatest Atma who pervades all and can never be destroyed.This is the ultimate understanding that is necessary.That this Formless Awareness is the greatest reality that we need to know.The only reality,the Supreme Reality.So he says,you are the greatest Atma.In fact,everything is the greatest Atma.But here Arjuna is seeing Sri Krishna.So he says,Sri Krishna,you are the greatest Atma.You are that Supreme Being.There is nothing other than this Supreme Being who pervades all.You're in everything.You envelop everything,and your true nature can never be destroyed.That consciousness cannot be destroyed.Anything made through matter can be destroyed,but you,the Atma,that which is Sat,that which is the witness consciousness,which is changeless,can never be destroyed.There's not even a single atom.That it does not pervade.It pervades every corner of existence and beyond.So the subtle point to understand is that this existence is his Maya.It's Brahman's Maya,it's Sri Krishna's Maya,or your Guru's Maya,yeah?Through the yogic power,this Maya has manifested.Once we become yogis,we unite with the Formless Awareness.And this Maya dissolves away as a separate existence.And what we see as this Brahman's manifestation or being,or the Shared Being,you know,that we often refer to.So that's another way of looking at it.It's very subtle points,but really,really interesting.Then verse three.O Param Isvara,greatest among all controllers,since you have described your true nature as the Atmana,the ultimate Atma,and you are also Purusha Uttam,the greatest person who is beyond the reach of matter,I wish to see your Aishvara Roop,magnificent universal form by which you pervade and support everything within this universe.Before we break up this verse a little.You gotta be careful about what you ask for,and that's the thing about spirituality,when you go to your guru,when you go to a teacher,when you go to your mentor,be careful what you ask for,and all I can say is,my secret that I can give to you is only ask for bhakti,only ask for devotion and gyan,don't ask for any worldly things,don't ask for anything else.So one should never prematurely ask for something,but Arjuna makes this request,right?So he says in the first part,O Param Isvara,the greatest among all controllers.So Isvara,as we know,is the personal god,the god with attributes,the personal god that looks after everything,that sustains everything,that creates everything,that destroys everything.So it's controlling all of existence.So he says,O Param Isvara.He says,you are that ultimate controller of everything.Ishwaras are working under you,basically,is what Arjuna is saying.And he says,since you have described your nature as the Atmana,so the ultimate Atma,so Sri Krishna earlier described what he is,who he is,and went through those qualities,if you remember,so he described them.So he's saying,you've obviously told me that you're the ultimate Atma.And Arjuna is accepting this.He's not denying this.He's saying,yes,you are.Then he says,and you are also Purusha Uttam,the greatest person who is beyond the reach of matter.This is a very important sentence.He says you are also Purusha Uttam.So the Uttam Purusha.Remember the Purusha is a witness consciousness.So it's the greatest person.Or Purush can also mean person.So he's saying you are the greatest person.So even though you're manifested in this world,even though you've manifested as existence,as this body,you're still beyond matter.You're still beyond existence.Even though people will think that you are Sri Krishna,the,the person who was in Dwapar Yuga,they will say all these things,but ultimately you are that witness consciousness.The greatest one.This is what we need to understand.So you are the manifested form that understands that it is the witness consciousness.So that's what Sri Krishna is saying.That's why he's the greatest person.That's why he's the greatest being and remember this is everyone's potential.But we deny this because we love duality,Sri Krishna understands Reality therefore doesn't deny non duality in fact becomes non duality.The other thing to note here is that since Arjuna says that he's beyond the reach of matter.Again,what is being hinted here is that Arjuna is prepared to see Sri Krishna as something Formless and then magnificent as the formless.So that's what is being done here.Arjuna says,I wish to see your Aishvara Roop,magnificent universal form,by which you pervade and support everything within this universe.So now he's saying,okay,you told me,now I want to see it.Remember what I said,you got to be careful about what you ask for.So now he's saying,I want to see this Virat Roop,this magnificent universal form that you have.I want to see the whole of this Shared Being.Yeah,everything in the Shared Being.Right now,our senses only see a particular silo.It doesn't go beyond the silos that it's meant to see and whatever the senses can project,that's all we perceive.Arjuna is asking that I want to see this magnificent universal form,by which you pervade and support everything within this universe.So he's saying,I want to see everything that you pervade and how you support everything within this universe.One thing I will say this is why I really love Arjuna because he asks for this.How many of us if we ask to see God would be willing to go there if it meant that your life from that day forward would change.That you may end up living a totally different life and you do.Life is never the same.The day that my guru gave me Brahm Gyan,my life changed.My life has never been the same.I function differently.I tried my best to live according to the principles But most of all I know my life is not the same.What my life could have been,I try not to think about it because it scares me.So,there's two sides,right?So,one is,your life changes.And the other side is,you don't even want to contemplate what your life could have been.If you didn't have this knowledge.This is very important to know.Then verse4.O Prabhu,my Beloved Master,if you think I'm eligible to see this,O Yoga Isvara,please show me how your imperishable Self pervades the entire universe.First of all,he says,O Prabhu,my beloved master.Again,this shows he is asking as a disciple.And in the tradition of Vedanta,we accept that the Guru can do anything for us.Whatever we request,the Guru will do for us.As long as we have a clear heart,a pure heart,and we know that Arjuna has a pure heart.He is saying,O,Prabhu,my beloved master.And look at the sentence he says,if you think I'm eligible to see this.Some of us will ask us if we should demand our right,we need to see it.If you think I'm eligible to see this.O,Yoga Isvara,the greatest of yogis.Again,one showing his humility,and then saying that you are the greatest amongst yogis.You are the highest of yogis.Then he requests,please show me how your imperishable Self pervades this entire universe.He wants to see how this Nirguna Brahman manifests as the entire universe.A big ask.But again,it's his humility in the very beginning of this verse that really says everything.And we should have that same humility right now as we can also have the same experience as we're reading this,as we're listening to this,as we're watching this.And that's why it's really important that we understand the state of mind that Arjuna is in to ask this question.And are we willing to really see this magnificent form ourself?Verse5.Sri Bhagavan then said,O Arjuna,just see my many forms,hundreds and thousands of divine images,and each of various colours and shapes.Sri Krishna starts,maybe with a little bit of a hint.He says,okay,just see my many forms,I'm this whole existence that you see.Yeah,look at the stars,the moon.The planets,the living beings on this planet,the trees,nature,everything,right?Hundreds and thousands of divine images.So,I am the devis and devtas.Yeah,just see those,and I have various colors and shapes.It's very beautiful.You know,he's trying to tell Arjuna,look,this is what you can see.Then in verse6he says:Now you may see the Adityas,the Vasus,the Rudras,the Ashvins,the Maruts,and other divine beings who are also there.O Arjuna,behold the many marvels never seen before.First of all,these33varieties of Vedic gods are the principal ones and that's what Sri Krishna's talking about.The49Maruts,which are the wind gods,are regarded as separate from the33varieties of Vedic gods.So I just wanted us to note that down because they were transformed from demons to gods in the Vedic folklore.Sri Krishna has separated them from the other gods,so that's something I want to emphasize.Then Sri Krishna tells Arjuna to behold many marvels which has never been seen before.Okay,this is,he's saying,look,I'm going to show you all the gods.I'm going to show you all the Rudras.I'm going to show you all of these divine images.Divine forms,divine beings,and what he's saying is that nobody else has seen this before.You're the first person.This is why Arjuna is no normal person.This is the verse that we need to note.Behold the many marvels never seen before.This is the first time this is being revealed.In verse7.O Arjuna,just see how everything in the entire jagat,both the moving and unmoving,is standing together within my universal body as one grand being.Anything you wish to see is present here.So let's look at the verse as a whole.O Arjuna just see how everything in the entire jagat,so this whole world,this whole universe,both the moving aspects and the unmoving,remember,space will appear to be unmoving.Moving will be everything.Now you're seeing everything.Yeah,you're seeing all types of rays and waves and,you'd be seeing the divine forms,heaven,hells,everything,you're seeing everything.And he says it's standing together within my universal body.So all of this is contained within my universal body.Within the Shared Being,all of this is contained.Yeah,very interesting.And it's as one grand being.Don't think it's multiple forms.It's all one,it's all Me.Anything you wish to see is present here.This is,think about anything you want.Whatever is in your imagination,it will be there.Because anything that has been imagined is already in this universe.That's what Sri Krishna is saying.Verse8.But you cannot see this form with your physical eyes,so I am giving you divine eyes.Behold,as I now reveal my universal and splendid qualities through my yoga aishvarya.the'unlimited yogic powers'.We're gonna break this verse up.Very,very important to notice,especially the first line.But you cannot see this form with your physical eyes,so I am giving you divine eyes.Remember,he says anything you wish to see is present here,so that's the imagination,right?Now he is saying,but you cannot see this form with your physical eyes,with the sensory experience of the eyes.So I'm giving you divine eyes.I'm giving you this Gyan chakshu.This true form cannot be seen with the physical eyes.So when people say,I see God,you have to understand what they're really saying.Are they talking about this existence?Or are they talking about some supernatural being?If they're talking about some supernatural being,stay away from them,run away,run.If they're seeing it as existence,they're talking the Gita,they're being the Gita.So I'm giving you divine eyes.This happens when we have Brahm Gyan.Brahm Gyan gives us those eyes that are necessary to see the Truth.That's the most important thing.So he says,Behold as I now reveal my universal and splendid qualities through my yoga aishvarya.I'm now going to show you my universal form.I'm going to reveal it to you.I'm going to show it to you and all these splendid qualities through my yogic powers.I'm going to show you through my yogic powers.I have all these unlimited yogic power.You tell me what you want to see.I will show you now because now I'm giving you divine vision.Now I'm giving you those divine eyes.Now you cannot escape anything.Everything will be seen.Again we should be careful what we ask for because if we ask with a humble heart,with love,with purity,we will get what we are meant to see.And Sri Krishna here is saying unlimited yogic powers.So there's no end to his powers.It can never be exhausted.So now he's saying,behold,get ready to see it.Then in verse9.Then Sanjay says to Dhritarashtra that,O King,after speaking in this way,Sri Krishna,the Maha Yoga Isvara Hari'the greatest master of yoga,who removes all inauspicious things from one's heart',revealed to Arjuna his Param Rupa Aishvara,supreme and attractive universal form.First of all,you look at the whole verse together.Sanjay says to the blind king,O king,after speaking in this way,and look at how he refers to Sri Krishna.The Maha Yoga Isvara Hari.The greatest master of yoga.Who removes all inauspicious things from one's heart.You could say...that he's kind of mocking Dhritarashtra.He's mocking the king.He's saying he's the greatest master of yoga.This is the person who's fighting against your son.This is the person.The greatest master of yoga.And he removes all inauspicious things from one's heart.So whatever doubts,delusions,fears that Arjuna has,they're going to be removed.This is what Sanjay is saying.Then he says,revealed to Arjuna,his Param Roop Aishvara'the supreme and attractive universal form'.He now reveals it.He doesn't just say it,he now shows it.The supreme and attractive universal form.So right now he is saying it's so attractive,it's so appealing,it's so captivating.Because yes,if you see God,it will be captivating,it will be beautiful.As long as you're ready for it,it's going to be.If you're not ready,then you may have some preconceived notion and that will end up becoming what you see.And Sri Krishna,before he allows Arjuna to imagine anything,he says,I'm going to give you divine vision.I'm going to give you these eyes that will now be able to see this divine sight.So he just gives it to him and that's what happens.The Guru gives that vision to us.Then we see this Parama Rupa supreme form and he says,'aishvara'supreme beauty.So beautiful.Verse10.Sanjay continued to speak.Suddenly Arjuna saw countless mouths and eyes,unlimited marvellous visions extending everywhere.He saw divine ornaments of immeasurable splendour and endless mystic weapons,upraised everywhere.So first of all,let's think about this.He says,Arjuna saw countless mouths and eyes.So remember,every living being has eyes and mouths.So he's saying he sees countless of them,infinite number of them,in this whole universe.So imagine all the universe's,living beings that have eyes and mouths,all of that is being seen by Arjuna.I want you to think of the vast scale of this.You know,when we see something in IMAX,this is bigger than IMAX.This is the type of vision that is being seen by Arjuna.So he says he sees countless mouths and eyes.So Sanjay is describing this.So Sanjay is also seeing this.This is why I said it's available to everyone.Me and you right now,it's available,this vision is.And then he says,unlimited marvellous visions extending everywhere.What are these marvellous visions?Of the devis,of the devtas,the divine constellations,the divine beings.What else would be marvellous?Whatever we think is marvellous,we're seeing.Such beauty,everywhere,extending everywhere,he says.So it's not just in one part,everywhere,in all corners,at all sides.Then he says,Urgent saw divine ornaments of immeasurable splendor.Such beautiful ornaments.Made of such beautiful gold and jewelry.And then he says an endless mystic weapons upraised everywhere.This line,this description is everything.This shows what is available to Sri Krishna.Endless.The battle on earth will end between the Kauravas and the Pandavas.It's going to end.Their weapons will be exhausted,but these endless mystic weapons.Which are everywhere that means at the moment of the war there be any time wherever Sri Krishna is he can raise one of these mystical weapons.Very beautiful and and it's worth to note that he's setting the narrative of what's going to happen.Then verse11.Sanjay continued:Decorated with divine garments,garlanded with celestial flowers,fragrant with intoxicating perfumes and exhibiting magical marvels of every description,Deva Ananta Vishvata Mukha,'the supreme Deva,whose uncountable faces look in every directionappeared before Arjuna.Let's go into this.Amazing stuff.Sanjay continued,decorated with divine garments.So the most beautiful garments beyond what the royal family can wear of any Maharaja.Decorated with divine garments.You see them,they,they hold such divinity.Then garlanded with celestial flowers.You know,everything is garlanded with celestial flowers.So imagine,if there's celestial flowers,how beautiful they must be.Then he says,fragrant with intoxicating perfumes.Whenever you smell something you really like,you love being around that,right?Same thing here.He's saying,this fragrance of existence,this fragrance of Sri Krishna,it's intoxicating.It takes you all in,yeah?That's what it does.An exhibiting magical marvels of every description,you describe it,whatever,it's just marvellous,it's magical,beyond anything that we've seen.Just everywhere it's exhibiting it,as a,as an exhibition,it's just showing off,that's what it's doing.Then he says,Deva Ananta Vishvata Mukha.So Deva,the supreme Deva,there's all these Devas but he's more supreme.This Shared Being,this Nirguna Brahman,Saguna Brahman,this Sri Krishna,your Guru.I'm happy and I'm fine with saying it's your Guru.I'm not going to even lessen your Guru that you have today.Because remember,there is never a time when Sri Krishna is not present.And Sri Krishna meaning any form of the Guru.Whether Shiva ji,Brahma,anyone.The Supreme Deva.Ananta.Endless.Uncountable.Infinite.Vishvata Mukha.Faces in every direction.Vast.Wherever Arjuna looks,there is just this Supreme Deva everywhere.So I want us to imagine this,that,that Supreme Deva is everywhere around us.And remember,think of the scale too,really amazing.You know,there's a certain,you know,when we're looking at perfumes,fragrances.If you've ever smelt...Sandalwood is so amazing.I love the smell of personally,I love the smell of sandalwood.I think it's just so magnificent.And they say that whoever touches that fragrance of sandalwood,It goes on to them,you know,even if you pass through trees of sandalwood,the sandalwood trees,your clothes and your whole being will smell of that fragrant sandalwood.And that's what is happening here,you will be,you will be filled with that divine perfume.What is that divine perfume?That divine energy.Then verse12,Sanjay said,Divi surya sahasrasya this is an important verse.If a thousand suns rose up in the sky all at once,their brilliance would not equal the effulgance of the form that Arjuna now saw.Verse12,chapter11,verse12.Remember this verse.There's a Christopher Nolan movie coming out about Oppenheimer and Oppenheimer loved this verse.He quoted this verse when he saw the atomic bomb.Just think about what Arjuna is now seeing.Now let's imagine,we can't even look with our eyes right now at the sun directly,right?It's so powerful,our eyes will become damaged if we just kept staring at the sun for so long.So he says,if a thousand suns,imagine the light emanating from this now.If a thousand suns rose up in the sky all at once.Imagine how much,how bright that light is,that Arjuna is now witnessing,and he says their brilliance would not equal the effulgence of the form that Arjuna now saw.So don't just get stuck with thousands I would say infinite.Imagine if infinite suns rose up in the sky all at once,even that would not equal the effulgence of the form that Arjuna saw,that Pure Being,that pure Sri Krishna,that true form of His,the true form of our Guru,the true form of Brahm Gyan,the Formless Awareness,it will not equal the light emanating from that one.So even if a thousand suns,if infinite number of suns rose up all at once,it will not be the same.Right now.See,if you've been given this Brahm Gyan,if you've been,if you've been understanding the wisdom that Sri Krishna has talked about,or if you've been blessed by your Guru,you would be able to witness this right now.Right now,you'd be able to witness it.You'd be able to feel it.That if these infinite suns rose up in front of you,it still is not as bright as the light of the Guru,as the light of the Formless Awareness.This is what is being said and you can see it now,right now you can see it with that divine vision.Everyone has been given that divine vision now It's up to you to utilize it.Sri Krishna has given us permission to see it.And Sanjay continued and this is the final verse of today's episode.Sanjay continued there Arjuna saw the entire jagat as the grand cosmic body of Sri Krishna Who is Deva Devasya'the ultimate Deva among them all'.Within that cosmic form,divided into the many species and classes of infinite entities,all individual beings live their lives.This is phenomenal.But we're going to break this verse up,there's a lot to unpack here.So Sanjay continued:There Arjuna saw the entire jagat as the grand cosmic body of Sri Krishna.This entire universe is just a cosmic body of Sri Krishna,who is Deva Devasya,the ultimate Deva among them all.So all the Devas that are there,they're all within this universe,within this grand cosmic body of Sri Krishna.No Deva can match up to Sri Krishna.No Deva can match up to our Guru or Nirguna Brahman.All of this existence,all of these divine forms,the isht devta that we may have.So,all the divine forms,basically he sees all of that in the body of his isht devta.We can see it in the body of our isht devta.That's what Arjuna is seeing.He saw the entire jagat,the entire universe as the grand cosmic body of Sri Krishna.It's not separated,it's one and the same.And he is the ultimate Deva among them all.Everything,whose is its Deva?Sri Krishna Or our Guru or Nirguna Brahman.Then he says,and what I want to say is this experience that he's talking about,it can be had with any genuine guru,anyone.It's just about having that desire,that willingness to see it.Many people go to the genuine gurus,right?People go but they don't get what they need to get.They ask for silly little things and maybe that's their nature,right?But this is the most important thing.Then he says in the next part,within that cosmic form,divided into the many species and classes of living entities,all individual beings live their lives.So in that cosmic form.They are divided into the many species and classes of living entities,so the birds,sea creatures,human beings,the gods,the planets,the galaxies,whatever,you name it,everything.They're divided into many species and classes of living entities.So imagine how much there is.Infinite numbers.All individual beings live their lives.So within this cosmic being,everything is living.Harmoniously.In oneness,because it's all this One.They are living their lives.Nothing is stopping them from living.They're all within that Shared Being and that Shared Being is within all.So that cosmic form,just imagine,is divided into many species and classes of living entities.So just imagine the vastness of it.And all individual beings live their lives.Even though it's all this one,that's been divided,and despite that these divided beings,individual beings think they're living their own life,different existences within this one existence,universes within this one universe.That is a way to interpret this verse and let me know what you think.Let me know your thoughts after listening to this episode,after watching this episode.What are your thoughts?Did you see what I saw when I was going through this?As I'm seeing now,actually,not that it disappears.And I wonder what we're going to go and see in the next episode.So I'm really looking forward to discussing this with you in the next episode.Thank you very much for listening.If you liked what you heard and liked what you watched,please do share this podcast with your friends and family who may enjoy this content.Do follow me on social media to keep getting updates.Join the Bearded Mystic Podcast WhatsApp community group to continue the podcast discussion,details are in the show notes and video description below.If you would like to support the Bearded Mystic Podcast as we discussed earlier,do check out the podcast Patreon page.Your support means everything,and it helps this podcast keep running.Details are in the show notes and video description 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