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Feb. 12, 2025
The BeerBiceps Controversy
This episode dives deep into the controversy surrounding popular YouTuber Ranveer and his recent crass joke, raising essential questions about humor's place in spiritual discourse. Through a compassionate lens, we explore the implications of societal outrage against humor and reflect on the teachings of compassion over condemnation.
• Understanding the controversy surrounding Ranveer's joke
• The impact of humor on spirituality and representation
• Comparing reactions to similar remarks by other public figures
• Non-duality as a framework for addressing emotional responses
• Encouraging conversations over condemnation
• The importance of compassion in spiritual communities
• Humor as a facet of the human experience in spiritual dialogue
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Bearded Mystic Podcast, and I am your host, rahul N Singh.
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So in India there's a very popular YouTuber named Beer Biceps, or Ranveer, the Ranveer show.
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A lot of people watch it.
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He interviews a lot of people from Sanatana Dharma, a lot of spiritual people, and he, you know, kind of, is somebody that is on this path of spirituality.
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I don't know if he calls himself enlightened or self-realized, I'm not sure, but he obviously is known to be someone who is in that space that is spiritual.
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So he was on a kind of a comedy roast show or podcast and he said like a crude joke and he's been getting a lot of hate for it.
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I think people aren't liking him because of it.
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Now, I don't really like his show.
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To be honest, I'm not really interested in the way he questions or his.
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I always find him to be quite shallow in his thinking.
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But nevertheless, you know, he's doing something good in the sense of presenting different ideas and different strands of hinduism, so I think that's to be celebrated.
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But the question is really can a joke go too far, and can someone who is a host of a show like him not say jokes that are crass or crude?
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Like, for example, I was thinking well, if I was playing cards against humanity and I say something pretty ruthless, that doesn't mean that I represent that view.
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If somebody goes on a comedy roast show and they're meant to joke around, regardless how low brow it is, well, that's what's expected from the show, and it's interesting that people are saying well, because he's representing Sanatana Dharma, he shouldn't do this, he shouldn't do that, but at the same, why shouldn't he?
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He's not pretending to be a spiritual teacher.
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He's asking questions.
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He may have had spiritual experiences.
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That doesn't mean that his podcast is where he is, the face of it, in the sense of he's telling other people that he should be worshipped.
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I don't think there's any of that.
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So to kind of and worse jokes have been said.
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This is, it's interesting.
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So I remember when, if you all remember that incident that happened in Delhi many years ago with that girl I forgot the name but where she was when when that gang did what they did to that girl horribly.
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It was disgusting, abhorrent behaviour.
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And if you remember, aser Ambabu said and he didn't get enough hate for this, not like what Ranveer is getting, and Ranveer didn't do anything bad, like this, not like what Ranveer is getting, and Ranveer didn't do anything bad.
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But Asarambapu was like if that girl said to those people that you know I'm your sister, you're my brothers, please don't do this, as if they would listen.
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That just, I mean, that was just for me and that was serious, he was being serious, he wasn't joking, and yet he didn't get enough slack for that.
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And at the same time I'm thinking this joke where you know he shouldn't even have to apologize for such a joke.
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I mean, if people are getting affected by that, I know there's bigger things to worry about and India should be worried more about, like kind of inflation increasing and costs increasing and stuff like that.
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And yet, when we're getting angry about jokes that I said on the podcast, that is again pretty crass and low key, low brow.
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Why do we take such things seriously?
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So, yeah, I mean, my, my whole thing about relating it to sanatana dharma is like, well, I don't think it really really is not the face of sanatana dharma, so it's not really a big deal and we shouldn't make it a big deal, like it should be forgotten about.
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So, yeah, you know, worse things have been said and people have got away with it and you know, half the things that are said on, say, social media is so ridiculous and you know, this was not really that bad of a joke in my opinion.
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I still, you know, and this was not really that bad of a joke in my opinion.
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I still have my views about beer biceps as a podcaster and the way he asks questions, but again, he's got a large audience.
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He's done some great work and that should be really appreciated and we shouldn't let one incident cloud the amount of good work that has been done too.
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You know this is an isolated incident.
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It's not like he's repetitively done such things.
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Where it's an actual behavioral issue.
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He was on a podcast that does dumb jokes and he just said a dumb joke.
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I mean, what more was expected from that?
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But yeah, I mean that was.
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You know, I felt like whenever people try to attach it to religion and attach it to some like dogma and and try to say, oh, you know, they harmed the religion, is our religion so weak that one joke can harm it, you know?
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Or that it, or that it represents our religion wrongly?
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I mean, he didn't even say the joke in terms of as a religious or spiritual person.
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He said it as himself, and I think we need to be very careful about how we kind of judge others and give them the verdict of what we think should happen to them.
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Yeah, so that was my view about the beer biceps thing.
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And and again, you know, I tried to look at this from the point of, you know, non-duality and how would non-duality interpret such an incident?
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At the end of the day you come back to silence made someone's life, where he's had to apologize and he's come on video doing so, where they will feel shame and they will feel guilt and they will feel upset, and I wonder whether that is necessary, you know, and should we not have more compassion.
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If we understand the context, that it's a joke, why are we isolating it from the situation that it was in?
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And also, instead of just attacking someone, putting an FIR on them, how about understanding them first?
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Get them to talk about the issue?
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So, yeah, it's interesting, but I could only feel silence.
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I could feel, I could only feel compassion for Ruvia actually and, yeah, main thing was, I just was really silent about it.
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I didn't normally have very like kind of direct views that I am.
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That's bad, like the joke is bad, like it's a terrible joke.
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I mean, on a comedic level it's ridiculous, but to take it seriously, it's actually you become the bigger joke by doing so.
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So I don't think so.
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Yeah, people getting offended they're the jokes, not the joke itself.
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The joke itself is not funny, but the fact that people are getting angry over a not funny joke is ridiculous.
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And it's not like that joke has any racism, it's not against someone's gender, it's not homophobic, it's none of those things.
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And so it just baffles me and I think that's the problem that we don't we go with our emotions.
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We don't we go with our emotions, we don't inquire first, we don't use our intellect to see is it worth responding to?
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Is it worth getting so angry about that?
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I have to then take this person to court or put a case on them, like is it worth that much?
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Is my heart even open to such people, the very people that are saying you know, oh, he's harmed religion.
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What good are you doing?
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Are you doing any good?
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And if you are, if you are doing good and you have realized the self, you've realized Brahman, you realize what your true nature is.
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From that, if I may use the words space, how can you have even a fleeting moment of anger?
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How can you have even a fleeting moment of anger over such a dumb joke?
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The whole point of being intelligent is that you can see the joke and be like you know that's just not funny.
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But when we get angry about it, why, why do we get angry about it?
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Why why do we get angry about it?
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Because this is the thing If we show our anger, whether it's through social media or whichever way, it's about showing that we are a warrior about something.
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We have something to fight for.
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But what are you actually fighting for?
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Is it bringing peace in your life if you put a case on someone and you make them stressed out.
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Do you think that will be good karma?
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Do you think that will actually bring you happiness and peace?
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Bringing other people down only increases one's pain and suffering.
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In fact, it veils one's pain and suffering, so we don't even deal with it.
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So that's why, you know, any hate and animosity should always be avoided and we should tread the path where we look at the fact that we don't want to harm anybody.
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We don't want to cause any suffering to anybody.
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So if you really want to show sanatana dharma, if you really want to pretend to be a sanatani, then check are your actions aligned to how Sri Krishna would tell us to be?
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Do you think Sri Krishna would tell us to go and file an FIR case and make sure that person feels shame and guilt?
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Do you think that's?
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He didn't even make Duryodhana feel that way.
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So what makes you think that Sri Krishna would approve of this?
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Do you think Shivji would approve of this?
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No, absolutely not.
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Do you think any great guru or sage would think like that?
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No, they would be like move on, move forward.
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It's not worth the time.
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Why should my intellect even entertain such nonsense?
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That's the way to think, because before we check whether we are someone else is harming another person or people buy some words by a joke.
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We should check whether whatever we say is going to cause harm.
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I'll be using our intelligence to check that.
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So, yeah, that's my views on the beer biceps thing.
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I mean, I feel bad for him.
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I feel bad for ron v.
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I think you know he's done some decent podcasts.
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He's had really great guests, to be honest, and, uh, you know he's opened people to different ideas.
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I think he should be appreciated for that one isolated incident, in my opinion, unless this becomes a reoccurring thing.
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But I feel like he was genuinely upset.
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You know he wanted forgiveness and he was seeking that forgiveness, and if we're still going to hold things against him, I think that would be kind of really sad, and I'd rather have someone that is talking about spirituality and being a positive voice than someone who doesn't talk about these things.
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You know he's not a Logan Paul, he's not a Jake Paul, he's not a Mr Beast.
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He's a lot better than that, in my opinion.
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So I think we need to be more calm.
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When people just say a joke on a podcast, come on, because we're gonna end up being the joke.
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You know what I mean.
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So, yeah, anyway, take care.
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This is the end of being the joke.
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You know what I mean.
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So, yeah, anyway, take care.
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This is the end of my episode and let's see what I talk about tomorrow.
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But you know, stay safe and I'll catch you tomorrow and leave a comment Like this video.
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Make sure you do, okay, Namaste.
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